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Jun 15, 2009, 05:48 PM
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Bryan,
Its understandable to defend your sponsor when you get the wheels for free.
But when doing Time Attack, you are doing how many hard laps?? 2, maybe 3 laps per session? Thats hardly getting the wheels warm. So your wheels have hardly seen abuse. Yes, the car is fast, and the wheels still work fine.......BUT FOR HOW LONG??
Go do an enduro race with those boat anchors and see if you have the same feeling. Or better yet, find me the PROFESSIONAL race teams who run ROTA wheels, or let alone a car that runs them in a professional race series (Not a Time Attack).
I'd rather run stock wheels than these.
Jun 15, 2009, 06:34 PM
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Bryan,
Its understandable to defend your sponsor when you get the wheels for free.
But when doing Time Attack, you are doing how many hard laps?? 2, maybe 3 laps per session? Thats hardly getting the wheels warm. So your wheels have hardly seen abuse. Yes, the car is fast, and the wheels still work fine.......BUT FOR HOW LONG??
Go do an enduro race with those boat anchors and see if you have the same feeling. Or better yet, find me the PROFESSIONAL race teams who run ROTA wheels, or let alone a car that runs them in a professional race series (Not a Time Attack).
I'd rather run stock wheels than these.
Its understandable to defend your sponsor when you get the wheels for free.
But when doing Time Attack, you are doing how many hard laps?? 2, maybe 3 laps per session? Thats hardly getting the wheels warm. So your wheels have hardly seen abuse. Yes, the car is fast, and the wheels still work fine.......BUT FOR HOW LONG??
Go do an enduro race with those boat anchors and see if you have the same feeling. Or better yet, find me the PROFESSIONAL race teams who run ROTA wheels, or let alone a car that runs them in a professional race series (Not a Time Attack).
I'd rather run stock wheels than these.
and they have tons of money too
Jun 15, 2009, 06:52 PM
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Bryan,
Its understandable to defend your sponsor when you get the wheels for free.
But when doing Time Attack, you are doing how many hard laps?? 2, maybe 3 laps per session? Thats hardly getting the wheels warm. So your wheels have hardly seen abuse. Yes, the car is fast, and the wheels still work fine.......BUT FOR HOW LONG??
Go do an enduro race with those boat anchors and see if you have the same feeling. Or better yet, find me the PROFESSIONAL race teams who run ROTA wheels, or let alone a car that runs them in a professional race series (Not a Time Attack).
I'd rather run stock wheels than these.
Its understandable to defend your sponsor when you get the wheels for free.
But when doing Time Attack, you are doing how many hard laps?? 2, maybe 3 laps per session? Thats hardly getting the wheels warm. So your wheels have hardly seen abuse. Yes, the car is fast, and the wheels still work fine.......BUT FOR HOW LONG??
Go do an enduro race with those boat anchors and see if you have the same feeling. Or better yet, find me the PROFESSIONAL race teams who run ROTA wheels, or let alone a car that runs them in a professional race series (Not a Time Attack).
I'd rather run stock wheels than these.
Your notion of 2-3 hard laps only holds merit for what YOU deem as the car is used for, the car originally ran the 25 hours of Thunderhill on Rota slipstreams. We also run the car for up to 30 minutes hard in it's current config in testing and I can assure you the wheels are abused (what is seen at Redline or other events "ala 2-3 laps" is nothing compared to the abuse the car sees).
We had multiple choices for wheels for our car and for the most part they would have been free or next to nothing, I chose to use Rota's for the following reasons,
1) I knew they would work and hold up.
2) They are a local based company to us that we have a long standing relationship with as friends (outside of business).
3) As a company the local main distributor has an excellent reputation of customer service which is inline with the companies we like to associate ourselves with.
On another note we campaigned the Speed TV/Modified magazine Scion in the last 2 NASA 25 hours and the last one we used Enkei RPF1's, we started the race with 16 wheels and currently have 7 that can be used again. We bent 5 of them in slight off's at speeds not exceeding 60mph and snapped the other 4 in a 80mph roll over. I can tell you we have put way more abuse into our current Rota's on the TA car than the 5 bent wheels saw.
Also if Grand Am merits as a professional race series I worked with a couple of teams a few years back running Rota's.
Mike
Jun 15, 2009, 06:52 PM
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Bryan,
Its understandable to defend your sponsor when you get the wheels for free.
But when doing Time Attack, you are doing how many hard laps?? 2, maybe 3 laps per session? Thats hardly getting the wheels warm. So your wheels have hardly seen abuse. Yes, the car is fast, and the wheels still work fine.......BUT FOR HOW LONG??
Its understandable to defend your sponsor when you get the wheels for free.
But when doing Time Attack, you are doing how many hard laps?? 2, maybe 3 laps per session? Thats hardly getting the wheels warm. So your wheels have hardly seen abuse. Yes, the car is fast, and the wheels still work fine.......BUT FOR HOW LONG??
Please don't buy any.
-Bryan
Jun 16, 2009, 10:38 AM
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GST,
By no means am I trying to put you or your car down. I have respect for you guys and your company, and you have built one hell of a car....and it shows.
I was just wondering why you guys run those wheels (with all the other choices out there). I now understand, that since you mentioned you are close friends with the Rota/wheeldude guys, I wouldn't want to talk down about my friends company either. And if I ever broke any wheels, I'd probably keep my mouth shut in respect to my friends business.
Oh, and Enkei RPF1's have been proven to be easy benders several years ago. Very easy to bend those spokes, especially in high-g turns. I've seen many become out of round, and slowly start to scrub calipers....old news.
By no means am I trying to put you or your car down. I have respect for you guys and your company, and you have built one hell of a car....and it shows.
I was just wondering why you guys run those wheels (with all the other choices out there). I now understand, that since you mentioned you are close friends with the Rota/wheeldude guys, I wouldn't want to talk down about my friends company either. And if I ever broke any wheels, I'd probably keep my mouth shut in respect to my friends business.
Oh, and Enkei RPF1's have been proven to be easy benders several years ago. Very easy to bend those spokes, especially in high-g turns. I've seen many become out of round, and slowly start to scrub calipers....old news.
Jun 16, 2009, 10:47 AM
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I have two sets of Rotas I bought (aka my own money) for my personal evo. One set for the street and track, and another set for winter in Tahoe.
I had a set on my WRX that was also used for track and street.
No issues at all with them and they are horrible and I go through them like water. Please don't buy them.
I also have the sticker on both my cars that say "Friends don't let friends buy Rota"
Please don't buy them.
You saying "And if I ever broke any wheels, I'd probably keep my mouth shut in respect to my friends business. " are basically saying we are liars which is for sure not on the list of things we are known for/are. Again, we've run enduros (but you said we didn't), We've run more than 2-3 laps (but you said we didn't) and we have gone off and jump across curbing with no issues.
We are a grassroots shop with a grassroots budget. The Rotas are good wheels and the cost is right. Are they the holy grail of wheels and make us look uber hip standing around in a parking lot at night? No. Do they work and work well? Yes.
Please don't buy them.
- Bryan
I had a set on my WRX that was also used for track and street.
No issues at all with them and they are horrible and I go through them like water. Please don't buy them.
I also have the sticker on both my cars that say "Friends don't let friends buy Rota"
Please don't buy them.
You saying "And if I ever broke any wheels, I'd probably keep my mouth shut in respect to my friends business. " are basically saying we are liars which is for sure not on the list of things we are known for/are. Again, we've run enduros (but you said we didn't), We've run more than 2-3 laps (but you said we didn't) and we have gone off and jump across curbing with no issues.
We are a grassroots shop with a grassroots budget. The Rotas are good wheels and the cost is right. Are they the holy grail of wheels and make us look uber hip standing around in a parking lot at night? No. Do they work and work well? Yes.
Please don't buy them.
- Bryan
Jun 16, 2009, 11:02 AM
#54
GST,
By no means am I trying to put you or your car down. I have respect for you guys and your company, and you have built one hell of a car....and it shows.
I was just wondering why you guys run those wheels (with all the other choices out there). I now understand, that since you mentioned you are close friends with the Rota/wheeldude guys, I wouldn't want to talk down about my friends company either. And if I ever broke any wheels, I'd probably keep my mouth shut in respect to my friends business.
Oh, and Enkei RPF1's have been proven to be easy benders several years ago. Very easy to bend those spokes, especially in high-g turns. I've seen many become out of round, and slowly start to scrub calipers....old news.
By no means am I trying to put you or your car down. I have respect for you guys and your company, and you have built one hell of a car....and it shows.
I was just wondering why you guys run those wheels (with all the other choices out there). I now understand, that since you mentioned you are close friends with the Rota/wheeldude guys, I wouldn't want to talk down about my friends company either. And if I ever broke any wheels, I'd probably keep my mouth shut in respect to my friends business.
Oh, and Enkei RPF1's have been proven to be easy benders several years ago. Very easy to bend those spokes, especially in high-g turns. I've seen many become out of round, and slowly start to scrub calipers....old news.
Jun 17, 2009, 09:40 AM
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god these wheels are hot...ive been holding out for so long what rims i wanted but i think i finally found what i wanted and this is it...just dont know what color...the flat black or cosmic blue...i would have to see what the blue looks like on a blue evo...get someone in to test that out for me...lol
