Unofficial: Evo X - XXR Thread
Jul 24, 2014, 10:54 AM
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But I wouldn't think you would want stock setup with aftermarket wheels.
If you are trying to do it "right" you will be a little lower and you will be adding camber.
Personally I would say just have them rolled. It's fairly cheap and you can't see it.
Jul 24, 2014, 11:03 AM
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Not sure exact number but I can say with my setup on gtworx and stock tires on the XXR 20 offset I didn't rub. When I went to 265's I had it rolled at the same time they installed the tires just in case, so I'm not sure if it would have rubbed but pretty sure it would have.
But I wouldn't think you would want stock setup with aftermarket wheels.
If you are trying to do it "right" you will be a little lower and you will be adding camber.
Personally I would say just have them rolled. It's fairly cheap and you can't see it.
But I wouldn't think you would want stock setup with aftermarket wheels.
If you are trying to do it "right" you will be a little lower and you will be adding camber.
Personally I would say just have them rolled. It's fairly cheap and you can't see it.
Jul 24, 2014, 11:12 AM
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No disrespect taken. I'm not coming from the "stance" point of view. I'm coming from the "sports car" point of view. Camber is to help in handling not stancing. Stancers just took it to the extreme. A good performance alignment is going to have camber. I had mine done by somebody that does a winning time attack car. I told him to align it to make it handle. I'm -3 in the front and about -2 in the rear. 0 camber will turn into positive camber in the turns.
I'm at 10k miles on my Ad08's and can hardly see the inner wearing any more. Toe will effect wear more.
My personal opinion is it's a waste to buy such a great handling car to not take advantage of it. 0 camber is fine for a Prius though.
Actually here is my tire with 10k miles on it. I'll prob have them flipped on the rim soon.
There are 3 track days and numerous canyon runs on them.
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I'm at 10k miles on my Ad08's and can hardly see the inner wearing any more. Toe will effect wear more.
My personal opinion is it's a waste to buy such a great handling car to not take advantage of it. 0 camber is fine for a Prius though.
Zero disrespect, but I do not agree with going with more camber. Our tires are less than affordable and the closer you can get to 0 when dropping your car, the more affordable. Stanced cars look sort of cool but do not see the cost:coolness ratio that would make it make sense.
There are 3 track days and numerous canyon runs on them.
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Jul 24, 2014, 11:20 AM
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No disrespect taken. I'm not coming from the "stance" point of view. I'm coming from the "sports car" point of view. Camber is to help in handling not stancing. Stancers just took it to the extreme. A good performance alignment is going to have camber. I had mine done by somebody that does a winning time attack car. I told him to align it to make it handle. I'm -3 in the front and about -2 in the rear. 0 camber will turn into positive camber in the turns.
I'm at 10k miles on my Ad08's and can hardly see the inner wearing any more. Toe will effect wear more.
My personal opinion is it's a waste to buy such a great handling car to not take advantage of it. 0 camber is fine for a Prius though.
I'm at 10k miles on my Ad08's and can hardly see the inner wearing any more. Toe will effect wear more.
My personal opinion is it's a waste to buy such a great handling car to not take advantage of it. 0 camber is fine for a Prius though.
Very good points and no I do not press my car enough that it makes a huge difference. Although I'm slightly more inspired to get closer to what you run if it would help with those infrequent times I drive through the canyon.
Jul 24, 2014, 11:25 AM
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You and all your science and facts and crap.
Very good points and no I do not press my car enough that it makes a huge difference. Although I'm slightly more inspired to get closer to what you run if it would help with those infrequent times I drive through the canyon.
Very good points and no I do not press my car enough that it makes a huge difference. Although I'm slightly more inspired to get closer to what you run if it would help with those infrequent times I drive through the canyon.
Even with my aggressive setup it's not killing my tires like some people think. I can tell you that it seems to have more effect on wear with the stock tires over these AD08's though. The 08's just seem bullet proof.
Jul 24, 2014, 11:34 AM
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You don't have to go nearly as aggressive to feel a difference. Find a good alignment guy that does performance cars. My guy asks me a bunch of questions on how I want the car to handle. IE under, oversteer, neutral.
Even with my aggressive setup it's not killing my tires like some people think. I can tell you that it seems to have more effect on wear with the stock tires over these AD08's though. The 08's just seem bullet proof.
Even with my aggressive setup it's not killing my tires like some people think. I can tell you that it seems to have more effect on wear with the stock tires over these AD08's though. The 08's just seem bullet proof.
Jul 24, 2014, 11:38 AM
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West End Alignment
I think it's out near Santa Fe Springs. Yelp it. You will see how many good reviews he has.
I think it's out near Santa Fe Springs. Yelp it. You will see how many good reviews he has.
Jul 27, 2014, 08:35 PM
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I light the longer lugs though. It makes it a little easier to start them by hand. But short work as well.
I have my old black ones. Where are you located?
I got some nice aluminum hub centric rings from evasive but you could also do plastic. No they didn't melt on my 3 track days.
Just remember to keep an eye on them whenever anybody removes your tires. I always forgot and I ended up with NO rings on it. Actually I ran around not knowing I didn't have rings on the car for a good 5000 miles and it didn't feel any different.
Jul 28, 2014, 07:23 PM
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Yea they say the rings are for vibrations but mine ran fine without them