Unofficial: Evo X - XXR Thread
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It does look like the ride height got higher after the wheels... :/ any reason to why you upgraded to coils? Thanks!
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edit: somehow i read "got lower"... no it was the same.
I didn't like the spring/oem strut combo ride quality. Did a ton of research on coils and found KW V3's were basically the best for DD use (yes, overkill for someone who doesn't track frequently, but so are my other mods ).
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Ok guys, I have a lot of experience with XXR wheels, especially on the X.
Here are a few pictures to give you the best idea you can get for those who have questions.
1. YES you can use stock 18" tires on a 9.75" wheel. Honestly guys, you can put almost any width tire you want on a wheel - whether you are ok with super-stretch or super-bubble is up to you.
2. Each tire manufacturer is (actually quite significantly) different as far as firewall angle and actual tread width goes. For instance, Falken FK452's have a very aggressive angle and the tread width is a lot more narrow than the same size Nitto NT555, yet both are rated the same size. This is because the 245 (or whatever the size is) in 245/35/18 is measured where the tire meets the wheel, not the width of the "pavement touching" tread.
3. For most concave wheels, the safe bet is a minimum of 9.5" and an offset of no more than +20 and you are safe to assume you will not need spacers.
4. Anyone that bashes "cheap" wheels is just bad an managing money. I just bought a turbo, injectors, fuel pump, and full ETS IC kit for what those guys paid for their used Volks. Not bashing high-end wheels, just won't ever see the logic behind spending 5-6 times more for something that doesn't get you any noticeable gains unless you are professionally racing your car. Yes, before XXR, cheap wheels weighed a sh*t-ton, but XXR answered that stigma with a solid F-U to the big boys. I had the wheel shop I got these from weigh them before putting them on - 21.1lbs each. For a daily driver, that is perfect. To get any lighter I would have had to go with something 2-3 times more expensive and not near as sexy.
Here are some pics of my ride through it's evolution (total pun intended) over the last year.
The day I brought her home
A few weeks later when I had H&R springs installed
A month later on Chromium Black XXR 527 18x9.75 +20 with the stock tires
A while later with KW V3's set at various heights with 245/40/18 Falken FK452's
Here are a few pictures to give you the best idea you can get for those who have questions.
1. YES you can use stock 18" tires on a 9.75" wheel. Honestly guys, you can put almost any width tire you want on a wheel - whether you are ok with super-stretch or super-bubble is up to you.
2. Each tire manufacturer is (actually quite significantly) different as far as firewall angle and actual tread width goes. For instance, Falken FK452's have a very aggressive angle and the tread width is a lot more narrow than the same size Nitto NT555, yet both are rated the same size. This is because the 245 (or whatever the size is) in 245/35/18 is measured where the tire meets the wheel, not the width of the "pavement touching" tread.
3. For most concave wheels, the safe bet is a minimum of 9.5" and an offset of no more than +20 and you are safe to assume you will not need spacers.
4. Anyone that bashes "cheap" wheels is just bad an managing money. I just bought a turbo, injectors, fuel pump, and full ETS IC kit for what those guys paid for their used Volks. Not bashing high-end wheels, just won't ever see the logic behind spending 5-6 times more for something that doesn't get you any noticeable gains unless you are professionally racing your car. Yes, before XXR, cheap wheels weighed a sh*t-ton, but XXR answered that stigma with a solid F-U to the big boys. I had the wheel shop I got these from weigh them before putting them on - 21.1lbs each. For a daily driver, that is perfect. To get any lighter I would have had to go with something 2-3 times more expensive and not near as sexy.
Here are some pics of my ride through it's evolution (total pun intended) over the last year.
The day I brought her home
A few weeks later when I had H&R springs installed
A month later on Chromium Black XXR 527 18x9.75 +20 with the stock tires
A while later with KW V3's set at various heights with 245/40/18 Falken FK452's
I have the same set up(with the H&R springs) and thinking about getting these wheels. Do you rub at all? or did you do any fender work? Thanks
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The Falkens they replaced had a much more angled firewall where as the Michelins (same exact size as the Falkens) are slightly "meatier" as far as road-touching tread and I noticed on the way back to the office that the Michelins may be rubbing ever so slightly in the front. Of course, i have my KW's just about as low as they can go in the front which i'll be raising a little after Cobb is done putting my turbo in, so hopefully won't be an issue later this week.
edit: forgot to actually answer your question
negative, had zero issues with rubbing with the stock Advans or the Falkens. No fender work.
Last edited by NeedBoost!; Apr 8, 2013 at 12:42 PM.