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Old Feb 1, 2009, 12:20 PM
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+22 Offset – bad for car?

The standard wheel offset of the Evo X is +38 but many people put wheels or spacers on with offset of +22 or even smaller.

There is quite a lot of technical discussions on the pros and cons of non-standard wheel offsets on various boards and for various other cars such as Subaru, Honda, Nissan etc.

I’m not intending for this to be a rehash of old arguments, I’m just interested in the experiences of Evo X owners.

Have you encountered any negative effects on the handling and stability of the car, for example excessive tram lining / wandering in a straight-line or during braking? (Of course alignment will also play a role).

Any signs of or experiences with bearings and steering systems problems due to the increased leverage?
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No issues all season here (10.5" +18 & +15).
Old Feb 1, 2009, 06:42 PM
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I'm not trying to start any arguements either, but if you can feel the handling difference between 20 and 40 offset, I want to shake your hand cause your the man.
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how about adding spacers? this is a good question.
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Originally Posted by bradze
how about adding spacers? this is a good question.
You add spacers to high offset, not low offset. If you picked up some rims that were +45 offset, this is 45mm past the center of the wheel towards the outside of the rim. 0 offset is exactly centered for your reference. You could always space out a high offset, but a low offset will have to have the rim milled so it doesn't rub the fender ( not for the faint of heart, milling is expensive as crap).
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Spacers are ok but you need to make sure to install extended wheel studs. This will ensure that there is a proper amount of threads for the nut to bite on to.
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So then lets say a 19x9.5 rim with a +22 offset on 275/35/r19 tires ... rubbing, handling, suspension issues?
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that's the wrong size tire for one (it's too tall).

In a 19" wheel, if you want 275 tires, you'll need 275/30/19.

And I think that you will be pretty close to needing a roll with that setup (will depend on the tire/wheel).

Handling wise? It'll make your car slower (heavier wheels, more contact patch) and will make the ride harsher (lower profile tires).
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goofygrin you seem to know your ****.

What is a good size then with a +22 offset that won't be detrimental to the cars performance or ride?

265/35/r19?
255/40/r19?
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check the other thread (your thread).
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also, if you end up creating a scrub radius, you'll get more kickback in turns. (scrub radius is the distance between the steering axis inclination and the center of the wheel where it touches the road.) lower offset wheels will move the center of the wheel outboard of the SAI, which will induce some kickback over rough surfaces and tramlining.
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265-35 -18 with +22 off set is a border line for fender rolling.
And when you do a full turn it is just misses the fender liner.
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I run 18x9.5 +22 with 265/35 tires and I have no rubbing issues anywhere. But I imagine if you go 19.9.5 275/30 you will have rubbing issues. 18x9.5 +22 is arguably the perfect size wheel for the X. If you go with 18x9.5 +22, the only decision you have to worry about is the tire size, I would say between 265/35 or 275/35. 265 does not rub, but 275 might a little. Of course it really depends on the tire itself. Some manufactures have different tolerances.

Just FYI, I'm dropped on the Eibach Pro Kit springs with my setup and still no rubbing issues what so ever. @ 1" in all four corners.

But to anwser the original question, i have not experienced any draw backs by using my etup.

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I have the 15mm wheel spacers on my car and I have noticed some wandering when driving in a straight line. It feels like the car wants to pull in a certain direction because of the imperfections on the road.

This may be caused by the change in alignment due to the increased offset. I have not gotten a wheel alignment after the spacers.
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Originally Posted by JDW1479
I run 18x9.5 +22 with 265/35 tires and I have no rubbing issues anywhere. But I imagine if you go 19.9.5 275/30 you will have rubbing issues. 18x9.5 +22 is arguably the perfect size wheel for the X. If you go with 18x9.5 +22, the only decision you have to worry about is the tire size, I would say between 265/35 or 275/35. 265 does not rub, but 275 might a little. Of course it really depends on the tire itself. Some manufactures have different tolerances.

Just FYI, I'm dropped on the Eibach Pro Kit springs with my setup and still no rubbing issues what so ever. @ 1" in all four corners.

But to anwser the original question, i have not experienced any draw backs by using my etup.
i have 18x9.5 + 22 with 265/35/18 kumho tires and i rub in the rear. i dont know if i got a bigger offset rim in the wrong box or what but it rubs. does the 9.5 rim measure 10.5 from outer lip 2 outer lip?

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