Need some advice.

After 27k on my stock pads, I made the move to change all 4 brake pads on the car. I went with the shop reccomended HP+ pads from hawk.

The shop said that they would turn the rotors if they were in need, but concluded that the rotors did not need to be turned.

A few days after the install the breaks began to SCREAM. The brakes operated fine but the sound was unbareable. Because of geographics, I wasn't able to take the car back to the shop for another couple thousand miles.

Judging off of what I've read on the forums, I concluded that becuase the rotors were never turned, the new pads were never able to break into the rotors due to the residue left by the stock pads.

I went back to the shop and they had all 4 rotors turned. Again a week later, my brakes are now SCREAMING and it had become quite an embarassment driving the car around town.

If anyone has any experience with this matter, I would truly appreciate the advice. I have 0 desire to buy new pads AGAIN, but I dont know how much longer I can take the screaming. Is there any potential damage I can be inflicting on the car?

 

take your wheel off and pop the pins from the calipers..remove pads and check for anything unusual on the pads or rotors. ie irregular wear marks.

 

Don't get your rotors turned again. You need to properly bed your pads in. Search around even google for brake pad bedding procedure. That should alleviate your problems. You may need some brake quiet lube on the backing plate as well but startby re-bedding them.

 

Great! Thank you for the advice, these are things I will deffinitly look into.

My question is though, is this due to a bad install?

It seems that most people wouldnt have to go through this process everytime they change their pads.

 

hp+ are noisy. thats just the pad. sell them or live with it

 

mine is noisy...it's normal for high performance brake pad.

 

HAWK hp are noisy, throw up a ton of dust....
on a side note, make sure you use a lot of the copper lube, not some generic version.

 

The back of the pad brake grease will help some. Breaking in procedures will help too, to bed the pads.

 

HP+ is what I call an ultra high performance pad. I have seen the pad grip so hard and generate so much friction heat, it would separate once piece rotor hats from the disk lol. Trade off is, its going to be noisy. You said you have 0 interest in buying new pads, but the truth is, there is no way out of it. Just short of a bad install or incorrect brake in of the pads, the noise level is going to be the same.

Stop Tech Pads are VERY inexpensive, offer very good stopping power and dont generate much sound or brake dust relatively speaking. My entire car club is making the upgrade to these pads, some already have. It's a winning choice.

To me, it seems that the Stop Tech 309's fill that void between the HPS and HP+ pad from Hawk.

If the pad is too much for you, buy the stoptech's keep your hawks as pads for the track.

 

That is normal. Apply some stop squeak brake paste and it will solve the problem . Don't blame the installer.

 

Brembos are loud from the factory... pad choice can vary in noise intensity but I agree, don't blame the installer unless they are not stopping properly. Any Evo owner knows, our brakes make noise but they work well and that is all that matters right???

 

I have the same brake pads and they have always been noisy for me, I just got used to it.

 

Yup, those pads are nosiy. Far from being "zomg high performance" pads though You can try bedding them in and/or double shimming them to get them quiet down. I usually do three to five 50-30mph with medium braking and then 80-50mph three to five times as well with medium/hard braking

 

HP+ aren't really ultra high performance pads, they're more like street pads with a lot of bite, a little more fade resistance, and a lot of noise. Many much better options out there for a normal street pad.

After properly bedding them in they might be a bit quieter, but they are not quiet pads. I generally don't recommend them ever.

I do really like the stoptech pads for a DD. They can take a little abuse without being loud.

- drew

 

Ditto that