Recent Ban For Shiv, Al, and Dave
Mar 15, 2006, 02:55 PM
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there goes the entertainment. With out all the debates this will be a boring site. All the request for dyno charts, and the 500 combos that everyone wants to see work, who will do them now for us?
Mar 15, 2006, 05:37 PM
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i read the whole thing from start to finish and it got real ugly. and if cloud didnt get a time out also then thats not right cause he started the whole thing by posting his statements on shivs sight and did a lot of insulting himself. he even went so far as to insult Al,s body.
Mar 15, 2006, 06:07 PM
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We ,the People,don`t loose $$$ when we get banned from a site.These guys just lost alot of $$$ and alot of respect.Haven`t you guys learned by now,that if you just agree , it all blows over.Just like dealing with a wife or mistress...."yes dear " always makes em shut up
grow up guys n let us do the b itchin on eVOM ..U guys make $$$ here.Leave the s hit talking to the general public.When they have a beef , just reply"Yes dear'
It works ,ask any oldman how he stayed married sooo long,2 key words..YES DEAR
Please don't state stupid things when u don't know anything.
Mar 15, 2006, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Turd Squirter
This will hit them where it hurts. The pocket book.
There will never be a solution to the problem... thats the harsh reality.
Mar 16, 2006, 12:24 AM
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Let's get real about so-called "bashing". It is the term applied conveniently by administrators who don't want to be sued, by vendors who don't want to be criticized, and by customers who don't want to hear anything negative about their favorite tuner/sports team/religion.
The fact of the matter is, no matter how damning the evidence, it is all but impossible here for a vendor to post anything critical of another vendor's product or services: not just because of the aforementioned liability issue, but also because nobody in the criticized camp (or their customer base) ever wants to get past the assumption that the critical vendor is biased or dishonest. It's just easier to cop-out, cry foul, name-call, threaten, or appeal to irrelevant facts ("I've been in this business 75 years so don't tell me my cross-drilled brake lines suck!") The technical debate never happens because the parties being criticized just don't have the desire to get involved except to get defensive, indignant, or play victim, which is when everyone else with an opinion crawls out of the woodwork and the chaos ensues.
If you want the truth, you're going to have to get it through the grapevine, because these forums are happy feel-good zones, not the tuner mythbusters channel.
The fact of the matter is, no matter how damning the evidence, it is all but impossible here for a vendor to post anything critical of another vendor's product or services: not just because of the aforementioned liability issue, but also because nobody in the criticized camp (or their customer base) ever wants to get past the assumption that the critical vendor is biased or dishonest. It's just easier to cop-out, cry foul, name-call, threaten, or appeal to irrelevant facts ("I've been in this business 75 years so don't tell me my cross-drilled brake lines suck!") The technical debate never happens because the parties being criticized just don't have the desire to get involved except to get defensive, indignant, or play victim, which is when everyone else with an opinion crawls out of the woodwork and the chaos ensues.
If you want the truth, you're going to have to get it through the grapevine, because these forums are happy feel-good zones, not the tuner mythbusters channel.