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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Phenix_fyah
Non sense !!! Those UK Evos are fakes!! We got the originals!!

and ours come from mitsubishi!!!
Dude, sorry to say but the UK has had Evos since 1996 or even earlier than us PHilippines started having it in our showrooms (we had the Evo IV in 1996). So do not tell me that the Evos of the UK were fake since 1996 or more, when the US only had them 2003.

Well I would even consider the US Evo as not the "real" Evo since they are totally different from the other Evos marketed in Asia and Japan. First we all got SAYC/ACD, the US model doesnt have. We all share the same headlights and tailights, the US is different. For the Evo IX, the US is the only one that has the Evo IX MR, but in Japan, Europe, and here, we have the GSR, GT and RS trim models. For the Evo VIII MR, the Asian and Europe market all got blackened headlights, same tailights (except for the badging in the UK), our MR logo says "MR" only instead of "MR Edition" found in the US market. And last but not least, our regular Evo VIII has 6-speed compared to the regular US Evo VIII model that only has 5-speed.

No im not bashing the US Evo. I like the US Evo, they are easy to modify due to the lack of electronic gadgets like ACD (for the 2003 and 2004 models) and SAYC (less complicated). I am just telling u not to say that u guys get the real Evo compared to the ones in UK. Totally depends on the country laws (example RHD models are not allowed in Philippines so we basically get the RS and RS2 models).

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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 11secEVO7
all cars with huge engines...i'm sorry as well but i dont think it takes much to extract 60hp/liter from a engine.
or even 500hp from 8277cc v10.


what i do think is impressive is 140hp/litre from a 4 door, 2 litre, 4 cylinder.

for this reason i even respect honda(hate to say this) with their S2000 that has an amazing 120hp/liter from a 2000cc naturally aspirated engine.

anyways this is kind of off topic and are purely my own views.
at the end though....believe me..if they offered the viper or the Z06 down here in RHD..i'd sure as hell buy one.
Edit: nevermind. Its hopeless.

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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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Best. Thread. Ever...

.. for most BS
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 04lancerEsGuy
U.S. doesn’t want powerful imports to ruin their American made cars reputations so they will not allow any other import companies to produce such powerful cars and sell them in U.S. However, they can allow 1964 rustangs w/ 400 horses on the street because they are American made. When imports got that much power, it becomes street illegal and so called "dangerous" so in short f#@* american government because they are haters and that is why we don’t see any FQ EVOs in U.S.
Originally Posted by 04lancerEsGuy
The reason u can get those in U.S. is becuase those companies are willing to pay huge amount of $$ to the american government just by allowing their cars in U.S. Look at the companies that you are talking about....their 400HP+ cars will cost about $60,000 at least and they have a huge network of people supporting them. Now look at mitsu, do u think that mitsu will be able to spend that much of $$ by selling thier 400 HP+ evo uner for $40,000? And we dont even have that many people supporting the EVOs because most of them just think that it is a fixed up version of regular lancer. We are not gonna have any celebrities or business owners buying an evo so there goes the support from other people.

By the way, is any of these companies Japanese????

BMWs = no, Mercs = no, Porsches= no, Ferraris= no, Lambos = no

Now u can see that U.S. hates Japanese cars !!!

Point proven
This guy is wrong. The one car that makes him wrong

425HP SUBARU STI ESX edition, Japanesse car, faster then a viper, cheaper then a M3.

The first good answer I saw was sayanara's. The US doesn't get really fast/good imports not cuz of emissions, not cuz of octane, not cuz the government, its because of the consumers.

Originally Posted by Slowride
Sorry, but I don't think the C6 Z06, the Viper SRT-10, and the Ford GT are anything to be ashamed of. All three will trounce anything Japan has to offer.
The new Skyline is 100% coming to the US and it will kill all those cars and the Z07, Viper SRT-1200, etc. Matter of fact, the more powerful model of the EVO X (suppose to be one with 300-325HP and one with 'round 400HP) will probably kill Z06, Viper SRT-10, & Ford GT.
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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Question

Originally Posted by heron163
Best. Thread. Ever...

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i agree, almost 50 replys and no one answered the original question
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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Evo IX specs for UK: (snipped from uk website)

FQ-300 produces 305bhp at 6950rpm
FQ-320 to 326bhp at 6700rpm
FQ-340 develops 345bhp at 6800rpm, uses a different ecu system

FQ-340 adds SmartNav satellite navigation and leather/Alcantara seats.

2.0 Turbo Evolution IX FQ-300 Manual
£27,999.00 OTR

ENGINE/ELECTRICS
Engine type In line 4 Cylinder, 16 valve MIVEC DOHC turbo with intercooler
Intercooler water spray, oil cooler & roller rocker arms
Fuel system 4G63 electronically controlled multi point fuel injection (ECI multi)
Displacement cc 1997
Bore/stroke mm 85.0 x 88.0
Compression ratio 8.8
Max output kw (PS) [bhp] at rpm 227 (309.49) [305.4]/6788
Max. torque Nm (lb.ft) at rpm 403(297)/4400
Emission control type Catalytic converter
PERFORMANCE DATA/FUEL/CONSUMPTION/EMISSIONS
Maximum speed mph (kph) 157 (capped)
Acceleration 0-62 mph secs 4.7 est
Fuel type Super Unleaded
Urban mode lts/100km (mpg) 16.8 (16.8)
Extra urban mode lts/100km (mpg) 12.0 (23.5)
Combined mode lts/100km (mpg) 13.8 (20.5)
CO2 emissions g/km 334
Noise level, moving dB(A) 76

2.0 Turbo Evolution IX FQ-320 Manual
£29,999.00 OTR

ENGINE/ELECTRICS
Engine type In line 4 Cylinder, 16 valve MIVEC DOHC turbo with intercooler
Intercooler water spray, oil cooler & roller rocker arms
Fuel system 4G63 electronically controlled multi point fuel injection (ECI multi)
Displacement cc 1997
Bore/stroke mm 85.0 x 88.0
Compression ratio 8.8
Max output kw (PS) [bhp] at rpm 243.3 (330.4) [326.1]/6700
Max. torque Nm (lb.ft) at rpm 415(305)/4300
Emission control type Catalytic converter
PERFORMANCE DATA/FUEL/CONSUMPTION/EMISSIONS
Maximum speed mph (kph) 157 (capped)
Acceleration 0-62 mph secs 4.5 est
Fuel type Super Unleaded
Urban mode lts/100km (mpg) 17.2 (16.4)
Extra urban mode lts/100km (mpg) 10.8 (26.3)
Combined mode lts/100km (mpg) 13.1 (21.6)
CO2 emissions g/km 334
Noise level, moving dB(A) 76

2.0 Turbo Evolution IX FQ-340 Manual
£32,999.00 OTR

ENGINE/ELECTRICS
Engine type In line 4 Cylinder, 16 valve MIVEC DOHC turbo with intercooler
Intercooler water spray, oil cooler & roller rocker arms
Fuel system 4G63 electronically controlled multi point fuel injection (ECI multi)
Displacement cc 1997
Bore/stroke mm 85.0 x 88.0
Compression ratio 8.8
Max output kw (PS) [bhp] at rpm 257.4 (349.5) [345]/6800
Max. torque Nm (lb.ft) at rpm 435(321)/4600
Emission control type Catalytic converter
PERFORMANCE DATA/FUEL/CONSUMPTION/EMISSIONS
Maximum speed mph (kph) 157 (capped)
Acceleration 0-62 mph secs 4.3 est


im assuming the uk evo went thru a different tune to gain the hp, i dont know, so im not going to tell you that is whats making the extra hp.

the fq-320 has increased airflow for the extra ponies, what they did exactly i dont know

the fq 340 uses a "supplementry ecu" to gain more power.

now the question was what makes the uk evo better then the us evo, i dont know what parts are different from each model. i know this didnt answer the question but i hope it gets it moving in the right direction, and if i said something wrong correct me.
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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Ok, I'll answer

The UK cars arn't so much more powerful. There is 5 versions of the EVO in the UK, some of them more powerful but not all of them.

VIII260 - slower then US evo VIII - 0-60 in 6 sec.
FQ300 - I would say about equally to a IX
FQ320 - equal to BR330
FQ340 - equal to BR350
FQ400 - no US evo equal to it

All info relating to UK EVO VIII trims, not IX

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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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I heard that the top FQ models (320 or higher) uses a Motec ECU. Could u guys confirm this?
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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I know the FQ-400 uses the Motec system
Old Dec 28, 2005 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by EVO-8-Nate
Do you really believe that?
Yes. Look, the Evo and STI are great cars for the price, but they can't really compete with cars costing 2 to 5 times as much.

Japanese against other highend performance cars:
[ http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...4890&q=skyline ]

After watching that, now what do you think?
I think that a Skyline no longer available and a two-gens old Evo beat a Z51 Corvette but lost to a Porsche Turbo in one particular contest. That's mildy interesting from a historical perspective but doesn't say anything about the currently available cars. It also doesn't say anything about quarter mile performance or how they'd stack up with different drivers or on a different--especially larger/faster course.
Old Dec 28, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Evo_Kid
The new Skyline is 100% coming to the US and it will kill all those cars and the Z07, Viper SRT-1200, etc. Matter of fact, the more powerful model of the EVO X (suppose to be one with 300-325HP and one with 'round 400HP) will probably kill Z06, Viper SRT-10, & Ford GT.
Sorry, I'm talking about cars that are currently in production, not vaporware.
Old Dec 28, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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I think this is pretty much covered by the past speakers...nice comments, most of ya'll!!
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