BOV vs WASTEGATE
#18
#19
It will surge.....not could, or might.......it will.
If you dont believe anyone try it (it wont hurt anything - short term), and I guarantee you wont blow a coupler off but you will hear the compressor surge, mine does it stock on low boost
#20
Plus, you try to say I'm wrong then go on to say that the car will have uncontrollable boost spikes and the turbo will die from the surge! What the hell do you call that? I call that "not running." Good Lord...some people...
#21
What is this "again" stuff? I wasn't saying the car will not crank up and run without these mods. I'm saying the car would not work properly. This is quite obvious - not sure why you're trying to refute me on something so simple.
Plus, you try to say I'm wrong then go on to say that the car will have uncontrollable boost spikes and the turbo will die from the surge! What the hell do you call that? I call that "not running." Good Lord...some people...
Plus, you try to say I'm wrong then go on to say that the car will have uncontrollable boost spikes and the turbo will die from the surge! What the hell do you call that? I call that "not running." Good Lord...some people...
#22
Well it could "surge" the compressor fins but the air will travel the path of least resistance and if that is the path you are right, but as I said it would be my guess that it will blow a coupler before traveling back through a spinning air pump.
All turbo cars have a wastegate.
All turbo cars have a wastegate.
Ever look under the hood of a Grand National? Thunderbird turbo coupe?
My guess is not since they do not have any BOV. WHen I am in boost and let off guess what happens? Compressor surge! And it does not leak out of the couplings either.
#24
Well it could "surge" the compressor fins but the air will travel the path of least resistance and if that is the path you are right, but as I said it would be my guess that it will blow a coupler before traveling back through a spinning air pump.
All turbo cars have a wastegate. That would be the externally gated thing you are talking about. Our cars have internal gates, and most after market kits have external gates. They are still wastegates though and still work the same. We have a spring in an actuator whereas external gates have the spring inside the housing but both work the same, just one is internal and one external. So I am right.
All turbo cars have a wastegate. That would be the externally gated thing you are talking about. Our cars have internal gates, and most after market kits have external gates. They are still wastegates though and still work the same. We have a spring in an actuator whereas external gates have the spring inside the housing but both work the same, just one is internal and one external. So I am right.
#26
What is this "again" stuff? I wasn't saying the car will not crank up and run without these mods. I'm saying the car would not work properly. This is quite obvious - not sure why you're trying to refute me on something so simple.
Plus, you try to say I'm wrong then go on to say that the car will have uncontrollable boost spikes and the turbo will die from the surge! What the hell do you call that? I call that "not running." Good Lord...some people...
Plus, you try to say I'm wrong then go on to say that the car will have uncontrollable boost spikes and the turbo will die from the surge! What the hell do you call that? I call that "not running." Good Lord...some people...
#27
^^How can you build boost without a wastegate to apply the necessary back pressure/resistance you need to make boost??? Tell ya what. Go out and disconnect your WGA and see if you make any boost let alone have boost spiking.
You technically dont need a BOV though. The air will have to go somewhere though and my guess is it will blow something and cause a leak.
You technically dont need a BOV though. The air will have to go somewhere though and my guess is it will blow something and cause a leak.
Now if you leave the wastegate in place and remove the actuator that would be another story cause some portion of the exhaust gas would always bypass the turbine (most likely most of it)
To the op, the folks giving you advice may have good intentions, but the obviously have poor information. you don't need to replace the wg actuator or the bov. Your money would be better spent on an exhaust, drop in filter, and a retune. A manual boost controller and a retune. Best bet is full exhaust, mbc, retune. If money is tight, mbc, testpipe, catback, retune. If money is even tighter, mbc, catback, retune............
If you just want the vent to atmosphere blow off valve sound... well then you are just a silly little ricer VTA is not the best bet on these cars, you can do it right but that would require converting to a blow through maf setup or speed density.
#28
So there are no turbo cars without a BOV or DV?
Ever look under the hood of a Grand National? Thunderbird turbo coupe?
My guess is not since they do not have any BOV. WHen I am in boost and let off guess what happens? Compressor surge! And it does not leak out of the couplings either.
Ever look under the hood of a Grand National? Thunderbird turbo coupe?
My guess is not since they do not have any BOV. WHen I am in boost and let off guess what happens? Compressor surge! And it does not leak out of the couplings either.
A guy I knew had a low cost turbo kit he bought for his civic it had a t-20 turbo and it didnt have a bov, he just let it surge...and this was an off the shelf kit. Never blew a coupling
It wont kill a turbo right away anyway but long term it wont last as long as one that doesnt have constant surging....
#29
If that is the path of least resistance than you are right. I said my guess is you would blow a coupler before surging all that compressed air back through the turbo but I didnt say it was a fact.
#30
So there are no turbo cars without a BOV or DV?
Ever look under the hood of a Grand National? Thunderbird turbo coupe?
My guess is not since they do not have any BOV. WHen I am in boost and let off guess what happens? Compressor surge! And it does not leak out of the couplings either.
Ever look under the hood of a Grand National? Thunderbird turbo coupe?
My guess is not since they do not have any BOV. WHen I am in boost and let off guess what happens? Compressor surge! And it does not leak out of the couplings either.