419 Ft. Lbs Stock Turbo Stock Clutch FTW!!!!!
May 29, 2009, 09:39 AM
#31
Ok first up. It is very possible to run 30 psi on pump gas. Secondly its very possible to do it on the stock fmic. I was running 28psi daily on stock injectors and stock fmic.
Some of you guys have no idea who Nate@TPG is but anyone with a dsm background will. He is a good tuner who was putting the shop 2g in the 10s on pump gas long before all of the evo owners jumped on the pump gas banwagon.
Go on youtube and search "tpgtuning"
To the OP, thats great that you made that much tq on the stocker but i hope you realize after a few launches the clutch is going bye bye
You are 100% incorrect.
Some of you guys have no idea who Nate@TPG is but anyone with a dsm background will. He is a good tuner who was putting the shop 2g in the 10s on pump gas long before all of the evo owners jumped on the pump gas banwagon.
Go on youtube and search "tpgtuning"
To the OP, thats great that you made that much tq on the stocker but i hope you realize after a few launches the clutch is going bye bye
So, let me summarize:
stock turbo - 30 psi
stock injectors - 30 psi
stock cams (and stock springs/retainers) - revving to 8k
Let me guess, you also have full spool at 100 rpm right?
What do you not understand about "It's not physically possible?" The stock turbo, stock injectors can't do that. Period. I do not even care about your whp/wtq numbers.... Those are all relative to what dyno you are being tuned on. The pressure drop the turbo is providing, however, is not dyno specific.
I would LOVE to see your so called tuner chime in and refute what I am saying.
stock turbo - 30 psi
stock injectors - 30 psi
stock cams (and stock springs/retainers) - revving to 8k
Let me guess, you also have full spool at 100 rpm right?
What do you not understand about "It's not physically possible?" The stock turbo, stock injectors can't do that. Period. I do not even care about your whp/wtq numbers.... Those are all relative to what dyno you are being tuned on. The pressure drop the turbo is providing, however, is not dyno specific.
I would LOVE to see your so called tuner chime in and refute what I am saying.
You are 100% incorrect.
May 29, 2009, 09:45 AM
#32
Thought about it but why fix something if it isnt broke! Yeah I know stock clutchs usually go out around 10,000 to 15,000 miles, I have replaced more than I can count. Why mine is holding up i donno but im going to leave it like it is until it starts taking a poop which might be anyday, and yes stock springs and retainers
May 29, 2009, 09:49 AM
#33
Thanks man its nice to finally hear somone on here with some sense. Yea I know the clutch wont launch, last year it was slipping trying to launch the car. At the track it went 12.8 @ 112 with a 2.35 60ft because I had to roll it off the line (Btw this was a complete stock evo with a cone filter, turbo back, mbc and re-flash)
Ok first up. It is very possible to run 30 psi on pump gas. Secondly its very possible to do it on the stock fmic. I was running 28psi daily on stock injectors and stock fmic.
Some of you guys have no idea who Nate@TPG is but anyone with a dsm background will. He is a good tuner who was putting the shop 2g in the 10s on pump gas long before all of the evo owners jumped on the pump gas banwagon.
Go on youtube and search "tpgtuning"
To the OP, thats great that you made that much tq on the stocker but i hope you realize after a few launches the clutch is going bye bye
You are 100% incorrect.
Some of you guys have no idea who Nate@TPG is but anyone with a dsm background will. He is a good tuner who was putting the shop 2g in the 10s on pump gas long before all of the evo owners jumped on the pump gas banwagon.
Go on youtube and search "tpgtuning"
To the OP, thats great that you made that much tq on the stocker but i hope you realize after a few launches the clutch is going bye bye
You are 100% incorrect.
May 29, 2009, 09:54 AM
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30,000+ still on the stock clutch, 29 passes total, 25 in the last two months, 13 on BFG drag radials, 7964 RPM with a 100% stock engine and exhaust. 26psi tune 12.024@113.35 on 95 oct.
Last edited by Indy Evo; May 29, 2009 at 10:33 AM. Reason: clutch, RPM, and tune info.
May 29, 2009, 09:56 AM
#36
The power is possible but @ 28 psi your IDC will be about 110ish at 11.7 with stock injectors.
And I refuse to believe you have full spool at 1370 rpm especially on the street and since you have a tubular manifold.
Either way good job i suppose.
And I refuse to believe you have full spool at 1370 rpm especially on the street and since you have a tubular manifold.
Either way good job i suppose.
May 29, 2009, 01:52 PM
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Ok first up. It is very possible to run 30 psi on pump gas. Secondly its very possible to do it on the stock fmic. I was running 28psi daily on stock injectors and stock fmic.
Some of you guys have no idea who Nate@TPG is but anyone with a dsm background will. He is a good tuner who was putting the shop 2g in the 10s on pump gas long before all of the evo owners jumped on the pump gas banwagon.
Go on youtube and search "tpgtuning"
To the OP, thats great that you made that much tq on the stocker but i hope you realize after a few launches the clutch is going bye bye
You are 100% incorrect.
Some of you guys have no idea who Nate@TPG is but anyone with a dsm background will. He is a good tuner who was putting the shop 2g in the 10s on pump gas long before all of the evo owners jumped on the pump gas banwagon.
Go on youtube and search "tpgtuning"
To the OP, thats great that you made that much tq on the stocker but i hope you realize after a few launches the clutch is going bye bye
You are 100% incorrect.
and to the OP, FYI a 99% idc is about 89% actual idc given injectors are scaled at 513 being 560cc. Awesome #'s fo sho
May 29, 2009, 01:56 PM
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Lol not sure why people are calling bs. He ran a crapload of boost and made a torque number. It had been done before. Notice his hp was in the 370s. There's something holding him back up top. Quit the name calling and search for recent accomplishments over the past 2 years and you may find ones even greater than this.
Nice torque number and yea the clutch might hold it for a while, I would upgrade when you decide to keep the boost that high though. Thanks for sharing and keep modding
Nice torque number and yea the clutch might hold it for a while, I would upgrade when you decide to keep the boost that high though. Thanks for sharing and keep modding
May 29, 2009, 02:01 PM
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Ha ha I love threads like this. I'm not doubting you OP, but just once I'd love if people making big claims had their stuff together from post one, meaning pictures, graphs, weather reports, etc all the data, so the thread doesn't go to poo right off the top.
May 29, 2009, 02:02 PM
#43
Proof....graph, log, etc. Kinda odd to have 3 posts and making substantial claims.
Sure you can run 30psi on pump....for how long though. I don't care who your tuner is I guarantee your timing is low and you have high EGTs. No intercooler will combat the hot air you are pushing if you did a few back to back runs. You aren't holding 27psi either...I don't think anybody has done that and their are more than a few who have REALLY tried. Are you logging with a MAP or just going by a gauge? Odds are you aren't holding over 22psi or you would be making more than 370hp. 30psi is feasible some of your other claims aren't. If they are true indeed post results....I think we are missing a few details here....
Sure you can run 30psi on pump....for how long though. I don't care who your tuner is I guarantee your timing is low and you have high EGTs. No intercooler will combat the hot air you are pushing if you did a few back to back runs. You aren't holding 27psi either...I don't think anybody has done that and their are more than a few who have REALLY tried. Are you logging with a MAP or just going by a gauge? Odds are you aren't holding over 22psi or you would be making more than 370hp. 30psi is feasible some of your other claims aren't. If they are true indeed post results....I think we are missing a few details here....
May 29, 2009, 06:49 PM
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The reason i dont post is because anytime you say anything thousands of people assume you lieing and that nothing you say is true so i normally dont even bother. I mean i could really care less what people think. I saw my car on the dyno, ive built several 700+ hp evos and dsms that are daily drivesr.I know the capabilites of the 4g63 motor. Regardless what anyway says im still goin to go on my way and probably never talk to those people ever again... live goes on... i will have the vids up in an hr
Proof....graph, log, etc. Kinda odd to have 3 posts and making substantial claims.
Sure you can run 30psi on pump....for how long though. I don't care who your tuner is I guarantee your timing is low and you have high EGTs. No intercooler will combat the hot air you are pushing if you did a few back to back runs. You aren't holding 27psi either...I don't think anybody has done that and their are more than a few who have REALLY tried. Are you logging with a MAP or just going by a gauge? Odds are you aren't holding over 22psi or you would be making more than 370hp. 30psi is feasible some of your other claims aren't. If they are true indeed post results....I think we are missing a few details here....
Sure you can run 30psi on pump....for how long though. I don't care who your tuner is I guarantee your timing is low and you have high EGTs. No intercooler will combat the hot air you are pushing if you did a few back to back runs. You aren't holding 27psi either...I don't think anybody has done that and their are more than a few who have REALLY tried. Are you logging with a MAP or just going by a gauge? Odds are you aren't holding over 22psi or you would be making more than 370hp. 30psi is feasible some of your other claims aren't. If they are true indeed post results....I think we are missing a few details here....
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May 29, 2009, 08:31 PM
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I love these threads! Yes the car made that power, I was there, I tuned it.
Here are the dyno sheets from the car, and also attached are the graphs from CB's 1G DSM I rencently tuned... 650awhp on Pump Gas and 24psi, 781awhp on Race Gas and 38psi on a FP35RHTA!
Haters have called everything we've done over the years b/s, its actually my motovation :-), and one of the reasons I only post on one forum regularly.
Thanks guys!
Here are the dyno sheets from the car, and also attached are the graphs from CB's 1G DSM I rencently tuned... 650awhp on Pump Gas and 24psi, 781awhp on Race Gas and 38psi on a FP35RHTA!
Haters have called everything we've done over the years b/s, its actually my motovation :-), and one of the reasons I only post on one forum regularly.
Thanks guys!