Is O2 housing recommended for stage 1/2 setup?
#1
Is O2 housing recommended for stage 1/2 setup?
I will soon have a basic setup of tbe, licp, filter and tune. Is an O2 housing worth getting at this stage or does it really only benefit more advanced setups? I've done quite a bit of searching but haven't found a clear answer.
#2
An aftermarket 02 housing, depending on the design and build quality, will always provide gains. Its just a pain in the @$$ to install because there are so many steps to getting to the 02 housing. Some people just wait until they change turbo's to do the 02 housing.. But I just got it done when I had the money.
I'm mechanically challenged and there was no way in hell I would be able to do the work on my own. Shops also charge a pretty penny to install 02 housings. If you can install the 02 housing yourself, I would say go for it.
Some people may disagree, that the 02 housing is not worth the money.. But I'm very happy with my Titek V2 02 Housing.
I'm mechanically challenged and there was no way in hell I would be able to do the work on my own. Shops also charge a pretty penny to install 02 housings. If you can install the 02 housing yourself, I would say go for it.
Some people may disagree, that the 02 housing is not worth the money.. But I'm very happy with my Titek V2 02 Housing.
#3
You know, I've been here for 3 years and I've yet to see documented gains from an O2 housing - just a lot of hearsay and anecdotal testimonials. My IX with a MBC, TBE, and a FMIC pulls the same numbers on STM's MD as IXs with full bolt-ons including an O2 housing. YMMV
#4
I felt a major improvment in power and slightly better spool with my ebay unit. Got it coated as well since it wasn't cast anymore to retain heat and help spool even more. Worth the 100 bucks. Major pain in the **** in terms of installing it.
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If your going to do a TBE then do the o2 housing. I consider TBE to include o2 housing, DP, test pipe, and catback. If your going to do the exhaust do it all the way. I know it's a PITA to change it but it's worth it
#6
i still dont know what a stage 1 or 2 is can someone explain that to me?
but on topic an 02 housing will definitely make a lil more power for you with a proper tune if you want the car to sound mean as **** get a o2 dump
but on topic an 02 housing will definitely make a lil more power for you with a proper tune if you want the car to sound mean as **** get a o2 dump
#7
The most respected Mitsu tuner in my area recommends them on VIII's but I'm not sure about IX's. The MIVEC allows you to dial in enough power that the effect of other mods might be masked (at least on a stock turbo).
Last edited by mlomker; Sep 29, 2009 at 06:56 PM.
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I recall the thread, and I also remember the added boost as you mention. IIRC, it was a little over 1PSI. After the boost was adjusted, so were the gains. In subsequent years, I can't recall a single O2 housing comparison that resulted in clear gains. I wish it weren't so, as I'd be the first one to drop a $100 on the part. There's also the possibility that I haven't seen every thread. If such a dynograph does exist, I wish someone would post a link.
#12
I recall the thread, and I also remember the added boost as you mention. IIRC, it was a little over 1PSI. After the boost was adjusted, so were the gains. In subsequent years, I can't recall a single O2 housing comparison that resulted in clear gains. I wish it weren't so, as I'd be the first one to drop a $100 on the part. There's also the possibility that I haven't seen every thread. If such a dynograph does exist, I wish someone would post a link.
But, it's funny that so many people never wanted to believe the gains found with the EPM housing even though they were very open with their research, testing and findings and were even backed up by independent customers.
IMO, and with backing results, I say that O2 housings are worth upgrading.
See the graphs below ... I'm even including the overlay of the compared runs to show that boost levels did not change. Timing differs slightly due to airflow/load changes. And, I actually had a boost leak on the O2 dump run as you can see in the WGDC curve ...
Last edited by TouringBubble; Sep 29, 2009 at 07:26 PM.
#13
Many people posted gains with the EPM housing ... I personally gained 19hp/19tq on it and we saw 14hp gains on the prototype on the test car.
But, it's funny that so many people never wanted to believe the gains found with the EPM housing even though they were very open with their research, testing and findings and were even backed up by independent customers.
IMO, and with backing results, I say that O2 housings are worth upgrading.
See the graphs below ... I'm even including the overlay of the compared runs to show that boost levels did not change. Timing differs slightly due to airflow/load changes.
But, it's funny that so many people never wanted to believe the gains found with the EPM housing even though they were very open with their research, testing and findings and were even backed up by independent customers.
IMO, and with backing results, I say that O2 housings are worth upgrading.
See the graphs below ... I'm even including the overlay of the compared runs to show that boost levels did not change. Timing differs slightly due to airflow/load changes.
Th DLL plot compares a SS O2 housing to the EPM dump, and the EMP makes more power. Perhaps there's a lack of clear communication, or maybe I'm not getting it, but the question seems to revolve around the stock 02 housing vs an aftermarket part of similar design.
Last edited by FJF; Sep 29, 2009 at 07:31 PM.
#14
Yes, the graphs above show a comparison of the EPM housing (open) to the Megan housing (tubular and recirc'd). The initial gains on the prototype showed a peak gain of 14hp (and 8hp to 12hp gains over much of the power band) in comparison to the stock housing.
The design changes between prototype and production resulted in even better flow on in the turbine outlet, and more gains. The prototype has a "scalloped" turbine outlet as EPM had not sourced the 3" radius bend used in the final product and this affected flow and gains.
The design changes between prototype and production resulted in even better flow on in the turbine outlet, and more gains. The prototype has a "scalloped" turbine outlet as EPM had not sourced the 3" radius bend used in the final product and this affected flow and gains.
#15
Yes, the graphs above show a comparison of the EPM housing (open) to the Megan housing (tubular and recirc'd). The initial gains on the prototype showed a peak gain of 14hp (and 8hp to 12hp gains over much of the power band) in comparison to the stock housing.
The design changes between prototype and production resulted in even better flow on in the turbine outlet, and more gains. The prototype has a "scalloped" turbine outlet as EPM had not sourced the 3" radius bend used in the final product and this affected flow and gains.
The design changes between prototype and production resulted in even better flow on in the turbine outlet, and more gains. The prototype has a "scalloped" turbine outlet as EPM had not sourced the 3" radius bend used in the final product and this affected flow and gains.
Is there a comparison between a non-dump'd housing, if you will, like the Megan and the stock piece?