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You've never seen a pivot cone at an autocross? Go through the gate, turn 180 at the cone and come back through the other gate.

 

The offset psrs from perrin will help.

 

go out and try it. at speed the car rotates in a lot less area than rolling at parking speeds. for one, the LSD's help the car to rotate, and so does the ACD. On AYC equipped cars, this also helps. these aids only work under power, so that is how the car's turning radius is less under power.

as for your autocross courses, you need to learn to drive. there's no place you should be at full lock on an autocross course and still not able to turn unless you're understeering which means you went in too hot, or at the wrong angle.

i've been autocrossing for 7 years now (5 of those have been in the EVO), and I have yet to come across a corner where the turning radius was a problem

your driving is the problem.

 

those types of u-turns are usually reserved for gymkhana courses. again, you're driving wrong. just because the cone is there for you to pivot around doesn't mean you have to go right up to it and crank your wheel all the way to lock. this post proves my point, you can't drive.

the way to attack that corner is to take it wide, and late apex it. set up an imaginary line through the turn, and use the cone as the apex. another way to do it is to use the cars weight transfer and trail braking to slide the rear end around. another option is to ebrake. another option is a scandinavian flick, rally style drift. there are plenty of ways to make it through that turn very quickly. i know because i've done it many many many times.

learn how to drive.

 

Boooooooom!

 

Buy an STi for a tighter turning circle... But seriously. You're just a horrible driver if you need it for anything other than parking an u-turns.

 

Your turning radius is much larger if you're understeering off the course.

 

....I'm in tears.

 

You won't be crying as much as the tires fortunately.

 

Damn you guys are harsh!

THE ENEMY DESERVES NO MERCY!

 

Hey now... I know Poki242, I'll have to watch him autocross on the 10th and report back.

Short answer Eric is that you'll be rubbing your transmission and inner fender if you could decrease the steering radius. Either that or rear steer

 

My post proves your point because I said "turn 180"? Switching directions over a 10 foot diameter or a mile diameter is still turning 180.

Those cones were at the start of the course, I took it as wide as possible, and there wasn't enough distance to gather enough speed to do an ebrake. Why the hate? The evo turning radius sucks, maybe your autocross courses are just way more open than the ones around here, but get off your high horse. You don't drive the courses here, so don't try to tell me how it is.

 

Basically you need to also rely on using the throttle to steer rather than only the steering wheel, which is why ODUB was quick to say that there are some driving techniques that you need to pick up.

 

So do you think that your region is the only racing body that's ever used that type of turn in the history of autocrossing? lol they are the only group in the entire country that's EVER constructed one of those turns?

now which sounds more likely, that no one has ever successfully negotiated one of the most common turns in autocross in an EVO, or that you need to become a better driver?

Deeez is exactly right. you need to use weight transfer, braking, steering, AND throttle control to negotiate those types of turns. by your posts, you obviously don't possess those skills yet. All i'm trying to say is that you need to become a better driver. if thousands of people successfully autocross this car with zero issues across the country, but YOU can't make it turn, then the problem is YOU, not the car.

you need to learn to drive.