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Old Aug 20, 2010, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by apagan01
because they have proven since back in 04 to be weaker than the 5spd
Yes, but there are also a lot of people out there that don't know how to properly operate a transmission....
Old Aug 20, 2010, 03:35 PM
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Im contemplating switching to a six speed in the near future. I feel its all about how you take care of your ish.
Old Aug 20, 2010, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mnauelg1702
Im contemplating switching to a six speed in the near future. I feel its all about how you take care of your ish.
Not necessarily. You may want to read the big 6-speed thread, too.
Old Aug 20, 2010, 03:44 PM
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From what I know the reason why the 6 speeds have proven to be weaker is because the gears are thinner than the 5 speed. I have friend who has a IX mr and is about to buy his 4th 6 speed trans. Yes he drives like an idiot and bashes on his car, but hes only putting down 350hp/tq. The 6 speeds however can be beefed up to handle more power and the reason why people should still consider them is because of their ease of daily driving and more specific gear ratios for track use.
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The whole reason why I asked was because I used to have an 03 with the shep 5spd and now im looking at an 05 mr and im iffy about the 6spd
Old Aug 20, 2010, 03:59 PM
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Just wait for the shep 6 speed
Old Aug 20, 2010, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SyZyGy1394
Just wait for the shep 6 speed
wait as in its being made or wait as in wait until i break this one then buy one??
Old Aug 20, 2010, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by THE8UH8
wait as in its being made or wait as in wait until i break this one then buy one??
The man himself is in the testing phase.
Old Aug 20, 2010, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SyZyGy1394
The man himself is in the testing phase.
SyZyGy1394 whats your take? should i stop worrying and just go for the 05MR?
Old Aug 20, 2010, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sleeper04
most people have problems with 4th gear going out first, shep has a beefier 4th gear i believe. so check that out... im at 480awhp on e85 with no problems. keep the fluid changed should be good
Spot on, has been mentioned a few times but throwing 500 ft/lbs of torque at any tranny and expecting no issues is a bit....unrealistic. If you go for the 6 just take a bit more caution as power goes up, either way just make sure to keep up on fluid changes and dont drive it like you stole it!
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Originally Posted by THE8UH8
SyZyGy1394 whats your take? should i stop worrying and just go for the 05MR?
I'd say go with it. I'm at 400wtq and a little over 400whp and haven't had any issues whatsoever. It's my DD and I like to make her scream, so she does get action.

I prefer the type of tarmac that turns instead of being straight, so that probably is a factor. I've only launched it a few times, and I'm still on the stock clutch.

What power levels are you aiming to achieve and type of driving? Sometime in the not so distant future I'll be at ~550whp and I'm not going to change to a 5 speed. I say it really depends on if the driver knows what they are doing. That and if you have a clutch that is overkill.

I mainly want the shep gearset because of the 4.09 final drive.

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The reason the 6 speed are "weaker" is because of two things.

-They have a thinner 4th gear that is prone to failure

-Next, since there is more gears crammed into basically the same area, the 6speed has less fluid capacity.

Most of the 6speed failures happen on road course. What happens is the little amount of fluid gets too hot and the thin 4th gear fails. In theory a transmission oil cooler would fix this problem, but most just go the the 5speed instead.

I like the 6speed (even though never owned one). Its much smoother then the clunky 5speed and is way better for daily driving IMO.
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Originally Posted by SyZyGy1394
I'd say go with it. I'm at 400wtq and a little over 400whp and haven't had any issues whatsoever. It's my DD and I like to make her scream, so she does get action.

I prefer the type of tarmac that turns instead of being straight, so that probably is a factor. I've only launched it a few times, and I'm still on the stock clutch.

What power levels are you aiming to achieve and type of driving? Sometime in the not so distant future I'll be at ~550whp and I'm not going to change to a 5 speed. I say it really depends on if the driver knows what they are doing. That and if you have a clutch that is overkill.

I mainly want the shep gearset because of the 4.09 final drive.
I live 2 seconds away from the pisgah national forest so i love the turns as well but there is also an 8th mile dragstrip i cant stay away from.
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I am at 80k with 6speed no problem
480lbs of tq E85
Old Aug 20, 2010, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by keath
I am at 80k with 6speed no problem
480lbs of tq E85
on a bone stock transmission? What about a clutch?


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