What are the First 10 Best mods for a stock evo ?
Nov 29, 2003 | 07:48 PM
#31
Originally posted by MYEVO8U
Have you been living under a rock?!?
I got 5-8whp from my EVO7 Tail Lights.
J/K
Have you been living under a rock?!?
I got 5-8whp from my EVO7 Tail Lights.
J/K
My bad. 
By the way the very first things I would do are add a boost gauge and then the ss clutch line. Common sense to me. Then think about the other mods.
Nov 29, 2003 | 08:23 PM
#32
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From: Kennesaw Ga
Grounding kits are for retards that just don't know any better. It's like saying my car is clean and now it feels faster 
Originally posted by JRock
Uhm grounding kits aren't for hp/tq, you newb, they're for improved grounding, hence the name. They can help improve things like responsiveness, or so we are told. Either way the benefits they offer are not something to be measured by a dynamometer.
Uhm grounding kits aren't for hp/tq, you newb, they're for improved grounding, hence the name. They can help improve things like responsiveness, or so we are told. Either way the benefits they offer are not something to be measured by a dynamometer.
Nov 29, 2003 | 09:49 PM
#33
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From: Brunei Darussalam
my evo my way
Guys, I really did add about 7-8whp at the dyno last week having just purchased a ralliart floormat and shiftknob. He he ;-)
Seriously here goes my top ten mods :-
1) Gauges (Boost, water temp, egt, oil temp)
2) Turbo timer
3) air intake with induction piping
4) turbo back (dp, custom cat delete, cat-back 3" all the way baby)
5) single plate performance clutch + lightened flywheel package (preferably after the stock one decided to call it quits)
6) bigger turbo kit + fuel pump upgrade + bigger injector upgrade + autronic ecu + tuning + higher boost
7) forged internals ( conrods, pistons, head studs, higher lift cams 264 or 272 preferred) + bigger FMIC and piping + autronic ecu re-tune and higher boost setting
8) slightly stickier tires (i'm sure those ADVAN AO46 is pretty much gone by now)
9) regular proper maintenance + servicing
10) PLEASE DO NOT ADD any more unnecessary weight to the car such, bigger sound systems, carrying big fat slobs, he he, just kidding
Seriously here goes my top ten mods :-
1) Gauges (Boost, water temp, egt, oil temp)
2) Turbo timer
3) air intake with induction piping
4) turbo back (dp, custom cat delete, cat-back 3" all the way baby)
5) single plate performance clutch + lightened flywheel package (preferably after the stock one decided to call it quits)
6) bigger turbo kit + fuel pump upgrade + bigger injector upgrade + autronic ecu + tuning + higher boost
7) forged internals ( conrods, pistons, head studs, higher lift cams 264 or 272 preferred) + bigger FMIC and piping + autronic ecu re-tune and higher boost setting
8) slightly stickier tires (i'm sure those ADVAN AO46 is pretty much gone by now)
9) regular proper maintenance + servicing
10) PLEASE DO NOT ADD any more unnecessary weight to the car such, bigger sound systems, carrying big fat slobs, he he, just kidding
Nov 29, 2003 | 09:57 PM
#34
I love the guys on here that are newbies, have no mods (or don't even own an Evo) and post all kinds of nonsense.
For your mods, first determine what you want to do, i.e. road race, drag race, fast cruiser, boulevard machine, etc., then find a car built in that fashion, find out that person's mod path and go from there. There is no real solution until you figure out what the goal is.
The comments regarding the stock vs. other BOV are pretty accurate. Stock is fine until you run LOTS of boost. I have a lot of under-hood work, but the BOV is still stock. Gauges, boost controller, turbo-back, etc. are worthwhile to build your foundation. Another key is not to do too much at once - get a mod, see how you like it, go from there. Some of the most F'ed-up cars I've seen were from guys who slapped $10,000 on at once. Do a little at a time. Good luck!
For your mods, first determine what you want to do, i.e. road race, drag race, fast cruiser, boulevard machine, etc., then find a car built in that fashion, find out that person's mod path and go from there. There is no real solution until you figure out what the goal is.
The comments regarding the stock vs. other BOV are pretty accurate. Stock is fine until you run LOTS of boost. I have a lot of under-hood work, but the BOV is still stock. Gauges, boost controller, turbo-back, etc. are worthwhile to build your foundation. Another key is not to do too much at once - get a mod, see how you like it, go from there. Some of the most F'ed-up cars I've seen were from guys who slapped $10,000 on at once. Do a little at a time. Good luck!
Nov 29, 2003 | 10:11 PM
#35
i want my evo to be a fast daily driver that sounds nice btw , engine and exhaust nice not a system. 
concidering i live in jersey and have 4 seasons i want to keep the suspension stock or at its current height , i think the stock suspension is more than good enough for a daily driver and weekend fun car .
i dont have huge amounts of cash , especially when i first get the car so upping the boost and major hp #'s are going to come later on .
first couple things im thinking about doing is ......
1) gauges
2) boost controller
3) downpipe / turboback
4) new filters
5) dynoflash
concidering i live in jersey and have 4 seasons i want to keep the suspension stock or at its current height , i think the stock suspension is more than good enough for a daily driver and weekend fun car .
i dont have huge amounts of cash , especially when i first get the car so upping the boost and major hp #'s are going to come later on .
first couple things im thinking about doing is ......
1) gauges
2) boost controller
3) downpipe / turboback
4) new filters
5) dynoflash
Last edited by Trail Slide; Nov 29, 2003 at 10:15 PM.
Nov 29, 2003 | 11:00 PM
#37
1. Turbo Timer
2. Intake w/ induction pipe
3. Turbo-back exhaust
4. Boost Controller w/ Gauge
5. S-AFC//e-manage//reflash//stand-alone
6. Intercooler w/ piping
7. Cams w/gears
8. Clutch and ss clutch line
9. Fuel pump
10. Colder plugs and wires
*****
11. Turbo
12. Internals
*****
After that, all that's left is driving school and dyno time
2. Intake w/ induction pipe
3. Turbo-back exhaust
4. Boost Controller w/ Gauge
5. S-AFC//e-manage//reflash//stand-alone
6. Intercooler w/ piping
7. Cams w/gears
8. Clutch and ss clutch line
9. Fuel pump
10. Colder plugs and wires
*****
11. Turbo
12. Internals
*****
After that, all that's left is driving school and dyno time
Last edited by en1gma19; Nov 29, 2003 at 11:10 PM.
Nov 30, 2003 | 07:47 AM
#39
Originally posted by EVO KING295
first couple things im thinking about doing is ......
1) gauges
2) boost controller
3) downpipe / turboback
4) new filters
5) dynoflash
first couple things im thinking about doing is ......
1) gauges
2) boost controller
3) downpipe / turboback
4) new filters
5) dynoflash
Nov 30, 2003 | 08:19 AM
#40
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From: LA, CA, USA
Originally posted by Mud
stock bovs' are known to leak in many different models of turbo cars, this is why there is so much knowledge about them in these forums.
A bov that vents to atmosphere is a good choice as it helps in performance (the turbo spools quicker) and helps preserve the life of the turbo (by effectivly stopping exhaust gases going back in the the opposite direction into the turbo).
1. Performance air filter
2. 3" S/S turbo back exhaust
3. Boost controller
4. Coolant hard pipe kit
5. Modifyied ECU (Motec, Autronics etc...)
6. Upgraded fuel pump
7. Upgraded wastegate
8. New suspension
9. 4 pot upgraded braking system
10. uhm...???
Also once you upgrade the ECU you can get rid of the air sensor (as this is mapped through the ECU) so bingo, no stalling problems with the new venting BOV!
stock bovs' are known to leak in many different models of turbo cars, this is why there is so much knowledge about them in these forums.
A bov that vents to atmosphere is a good choice as it helps in performance (the turbo spools quicker) and helps preserve the life of the turbo (by effectivly stopping exhaust gases going back in the the opposite direction into the turbo).
1. Performance air filter
2. 3" S/S turbo back exhaust
3. Boost controller
4. Coolant hard pipe kit
5. Modifyied ECU (Motec, Autronics etc...)
6. Upgraded fuel pump
7. Upgraded wastegate
8. New suspension
9. 4 pot upgraded braking system
10. uhm...???
Also once you upgrade the ECU you can get rid of the air sensor (as this is mapped through the ECU) so bingo, no stalling problems with the new venting BOV!
Nov 30, 2003 | 08:31 AM
#41
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Forget all those other lists and listen up to the newbie who knows his sh@t.
1) Black out headlights
2) No Fear decal for the windshied
3) Neon lighting wherever you can put it
4) Bra for the front
5) Autozone lighting bolt graphics package
6) Spinner hub cabs
7) Number decal representing your favorite Nascar driver for the rear window
8) A bunch of colorful beads hanging from your rearview mirror
9) Huge exhaust tip
10) Steering wheel cover with some arbitrary Asian writing on it.
This my friend will not only make you the envy of all other EVO owners but it will also have the ladies flocking. Trust me for I practice what I preach.
1) Black out headlights
2) No Fear decal for the windshied
3) Neon lighting wherever you can put it
4) Bra for the front
5) Autozone lighting bolt graphics package
6) Spinner hub cabs
7) Number decal representing your favorite Nascar driver for the rear window
8) A bunch of colorful beads hanging from your rearview mirror
9) Huge exhaust tip
10) Steering wheel cover with some arbitrary Asian writing on it.
This my friend will not only make you the envy of all other EVO owners but it will also have the ladies flocking. Trust me for I practice what I preach.
Last edited by ryukyuhapa3; Nov 30, 2003 at 08:35 AM.
Nov 30, 2003 | 09:15 AM
#42
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From: London, UK
Originally posted by CarPhoto.net
First of all evos have 4 pot brakes stock... Please revise your information before posting and edit this post.
First of all evos have 4 pot brakes stock... Please revise your information before posting and edit this post.
thats why I said UPGRADED.Please read the whole reply properly before posting and edit your post
Nov 30, 2003 | 09:52 AM
#43
Originally posted by alex_alex
the grounding kit is absolutely USELESS. Ask Vishnu, Al, Pruven, Ultimate Racing, Buschur, and any of the big tuners that have a clue whether they use these kits or not.
Theres a reason why no one as yet to produce a dyno chart confirming the performance increase realized by grounding kits. Because it doesn't exist.
the grounding kit is absolutely USELESS. Ask Vishnu, Al, Pruven, Ultimate Racing, Buschur, and any of the big tuners that have a clue whether they use these kits or not.
Theres a reason why no one as yet to produce a dyno chart confirming the performance increase realized by grounding kits. Because it doesn't exist.
The stock ground works fine...but there are definate improvements by going to a grounding kit. the improvements that I noticed was smoother acceleration and brighter headlights. It also helped with a "near stall" problem that my EVO had when inching forward and having A/C on full (going through a drive-thru or driving in heavy traffic). My idle would drop down to around 500 and almost stall and then it would recover. This used to happen 1-3 times a month. Since I've install the kit, it's only happened once in the last 3 months.
Some things that you upgrade don't produce hp/tq but help the car in the long run. Spark plugs, ignition wires, air filters ($200 for 3-5 hp?), blow off valve, light weight rims, carbon fiber panels...etc. I noticed a definate difference with the grounding kit along with the other 5 guys that installed the kit with me, so for $40 I think it's a good investment.
But we're off topic:
My top 10 would be:
- turbo back exhaust
- SAFC/reflash/XEDE
- Boost controler (if going the route of SAFC)
- grounding kit
- cams
that to me is enough to have quite a beast on your hands. If you want to go further then: turbo, fuel pump, injectors...
Nov 30, 2003 | 09:55 AM
#44
It is amazing !!! if any of you have ever owned a DSM...you should know the proper upgrade path for this car. ok.. ok.. It may be slightly different than a DSM...but really only by a mod or two. Due to the computer differences. But still the DSM community all knows that their cars run pig rich also. The DSM and the evo are actually very close in relation despite their engines being mounted differently and blah blah blah...you get the rest. But anyone with a brain knows that you absolutley must get some way of measuring what you are doing....Gauges being the first thing to do. Second...(this is where things may change a bit. On a DSM an intake would probably go here. But according to many people the intake upsets the MAS and makes it unhappy....But I put an intake on my evo have had nothing but positives out of mine so I am going to stick with intake. Third being an exhaust. Pretty plain and simple. Second and third mod sole purpose open up in and out of the engine and procede from there. Fourth on the DSM would probably be a Boost controller. This would in my experience help with the boost spiking that is occuring from your new found exhaust, not turning up the boost, YET!. Then fifth....gentlemen...just ask dave buschur....the 2nd gen DSM BOV sucks, and guess what!, it is the same BOV as on our cars!!!...a plastic junk DV. It does leak...you can hear it. I guess having owned a DSM for many years made my ear more prone to hearing it. Just ask Dave....he'll tell ya. Get a 1st gen BOV in there and you'll be fine and dandy there...it is much better than ours...and when it is crushed properly it makes it hold more boost! NOW you can turn your boost up a bit....oooooooh! more power! Sixth, a reflash or AFC....trying to get the fuel maps back to a JDM level would be a great thing. 
Seventh, on my DSM would have been I did a new after IC elbow piping that goes under the fuse box...wow did that help alot!!! but that has no relation to this car. But you could probably fill in the blank for the next three or four...wheels, turbo timer(waste....quit being so damn lazy), IC piping big help! and so on. But some of these posts are rediculous in terms of any sort of "know how" of what they are doing. Go to DSM.ORG and find out how to properly tune a 4g63 if you are just starting out.
Seventh, on my DSM would have been I did a new after IC elbow piping that goes under the fuse box...wow did that help alot!!! but that has no relation to this car. But you could probably fill in the blank for the next three or four...wheels, turbo timer(waste....quit being so damn lazy), IC piping big help! and so on. But some of these posts are rediculous in terms of any sort of "know how" of what they are doing. Go to DSM.ORG and find out how to properly tune a 4g63 if you are just starting out.
Last edited by favre95; Nov 30, 2003 at 10:04 AM.
Nov 30, 2003 | 10:08 AM
#45
Originally posted by favre95
It is amazing !!! if any of you have ever owned a DSM...you should know the proper upgrade path for this car. ok.. ok.. It may be slightly different than a DSM...but really only by a mod or two. Due to the computer differences. But still the DSM community all knows that their cars run pig rich also. The DSM and the evo are actually very close in relation despite their engines being mounted differently and blah blah blah...you get the rest. But anyone with a brain knows that you absolutley must get some way of measuring what you are doing....Gauges being the first thing to do. Second...(this is where things may change a bit. On a DSM an intake would probably go here. But according to many people the intake upsets the MAS and makes it unhappy....But I put an intake on my evo have had nothing but positives out of mine so I am going to stick with intake. Third being an exhaust. Pretty plain and simple. Second and third mod sole purpose open up in and out of the engine and procede from there. Fourth on the DSM would probably be a Boost controller. This would in my experience help with the boost spiking that is occuring from your new found exhaust, not turning up the boost, YET!. Then fifth....gentlemen...just ask dave buschur....the 2nd gen DSM BOV sucks, and guess what!, it is the same BOV as on our cars!!!...a plastic junk DV. It does leak...you can hear it. I guess having owned a DSM for many years made my ear more prone to hearing it. Just ask Dave....he'll tell ya. Get a 1st gen BOV in there and you'll be fine and dandy there...it is much better than ours...and when it is crushed properly it makes it hold more boost! NOW you can turn your boost up a bit....oooooooh! more power! Sixth, a reflash or AFC....trying to get the fuel maps back to a JDM level would be a great thing. Seventh, on my DSM would have been I did a new after IC elbow piping that goes under the fuse box...wow did that help alot!!! but that has no relation to this car. But you could probably fill in the blank for the next three or four...wheels, turbo timer(waste....quit being so damn lazy), IC piping big help! and so on. But some of these posts are rediculous in terms of any sort of "know how" of what they are doing. Go to DSM.ORG and find out how to properly tune a 4g63 if you are just starting out.
It is amazing !!! if any of you have ever owned a DSM...you should know the proper upgrade path for this car. ok.. ok.. It may be slightly different than a DSM...but really only by a mod or two. Due to the computer differences. But still the DSM community all knows that their cars run pig rich also. The DSM and the evo are actually very close in relation despite their engines being mounted differently and blah blah blah...you get the rest. But anyone with a brain knows that you absolutley must get some way of measuring what you are doing....Gauges being the first thing to do. Second...(this is where things may change a bit. On a DSM an intake would probably go here. But according to many people the intake upsets the MAS and makes it unhappy....But I put an intake on my evo have had nothing but positives out of mine so I am going to stick with intake. Third being an exhaust. Pretty plain and simple. Second and third mod sole purpose open up in and out of the engine and procede from there. Fourth on the DSM would probably be a Boost controller. This would in my experience help with the boost spiking that is occuring from your new found exhaust, not turning up the boost, YET!. Then fifth....gentlemen...just ask dave buschur....the 2nd gen DSM BOV sucks, and guess what!, it is the same BOV as on our cars!!!...a plastic junk DV. It does leak...you can hear it. I guess having owned a DSM for many years made my ear more prone to hearing it. Just ask Dave....he'll tell ya. Get a 1st gen BOV in there and you'll be fine and dandy there...it is much better than ours...and when it is crushed properly it makes it hold more boost! NOW you can turn your boost up a bit....oooooooh! more power! Sixth, a reflash or AFC....trying to get the fuel maps back to a JDM level would be a great thing.
Seventh, on my DSM would have been I did a new after IC elbow piping that goes under the fuse box...wow did that help alot!!! but that has no relation to this car. But you could probably fill in the blank for the next three or four...wheels, turbo timer(waste....quit being so damn lazy), IC piping big help! and so on. But some of these posts are rediculous in terms of any sort of "know how" of what they are doing. Go to DSM.ORG and find out how to properly tune a 4g63 if you are just starting out.