Thinking of switching to Evo (S2000 owner)
Jan 19, 2011 | 08:56 AM
#31
I simply cannot have both. Its not a matter of finances, just parking space. And you don't want either of these cars sitting outside in -20 weather. And definately no weekend warrior/garage queen, this car will be used. No payments on the S2000. I'm against financing cars so hence why I mentioned saving up so I can comfortably buy an X with cash.
I won't get an STI for sure. Hate the understeer on those, its like driving a plow.
I do all of my maintanance so that should be taken care of. Speaking of that though, I hear a lot of bad things about the clutch? I've done clutches before, just not in something with such a complex drivetrain. Engine has to come out? What about the tcase, is that also a weak point?
As for the roads in the winter, they aren't that bad...I mean I drove my S2K for 2 winters. What a circuis that was. Plus you see people winter driving STIs all the time. A chip here and there is no big deal for me.
Importing wasn't hard at all for my S2000. Would it be any different for an evo? I always factor in 20-25% extra for taxes and duties. I could get an X, but damn the IXs just look deadly. In all honesty the tacoma is the car for me, but I really really want to be able to get away with doing all of those things and still driving something exciting.
Thanks again for the replies.
I won't get an STI for sure. Hate the understeer on those, its like driving a plow.
I do all of my maintanance so that should be taken care of. Speaking of that though, I hear a lot of bad things about the clutch? I've done clutches before, just not in something with such a complex drivetrain. Engine has to come out? What about the tcase, is that also a weak point?
As for the roads in the winter, they aren't that bad...I mean I drove my S2K for 2 winters. What a circuis that was. Plus you see people winter driving STIs all the time. A chip here and there is no big deal for me.
Importing wasn't hard at all for my S2000. Would it be any different for an evo? I always factor in 20-25% extra for taxes and duties. I could get an X, but damn the IXs just look deadly. In all honesty the tacoma is the car for me, but I really really want to be able to get away with doing all of those things and still driving something exciting.
Thanks again for the replies.
Other minor problems for the Evo in general would be warped rotors, cheap paint, the wings have cheap clear coat, cheap paint on the brembos, codes are thrown easily for mods (test pipe, exhaust, intake, etc.), noisy rattling interior, large turning circle and no lock on the glove box haha.
If you are on the ball with the strict maintenance and take care of the Evo as if it was your child, I don't see how it couldn't go above and beyond 200 000+ miles (some guys are close!). It's really a RAW drivers car and that is the best way to describe it.
Good luck with it.
Jan 19, 2011 | 03:35 PM
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Yea. I posted here only cause I am trying to convince myself an evo is a good idea. lol
But man reading some of the threads on broken this, problem that makes me cringe. I just don't want to deal with any more car repair bull****! Can't have the best of all worlds though...
But man reading some of the threads on broken this, problem that makes me cringe. I just don't want to deal with any more car repair bull****! Can't have the best of all worlds though...
Jan 19, 2011 | 03:37 PM
#38
S2k's are wonderful cars for summer or as a second vehicle!
1. I do half this and don't have a rack. With rack, easy.
2. Awesome winter car. Just had an ice storm here. My all-seasons did well.
3. If you don't go overboard it'll be fine. Make wise/proven mod choices. Most who get fed up with the car love it stock then go overboard/never get a good full-spectrum tune.
4. In a month it'll be what S2k!
5. Your call. 8-9 is easier to work on in my opinion.
6. --
7. Airplanes do the same thing! Turbo's rock (though planes often only put out standard pressure at altitude).
8. I see 20ish, half highway, half stoplight to stoplight, spirited driving.
1. I do half this and don't have a rack. With rack, easy.
2. Awesome winter car. Just had an ice storm here. My all-seasons did well.
3. If you don't go overboard it'll be fine. Make wise/proven mod choices. Most who get fed up with the car love it stock then go overboard/never get a good full-spectrum tune.
4. In a month it'll be what S2k!
5. Your call. 8-9 is easier to work on in my opinion.
6. --
7. Airplanes do the same thing! Turbo's rock (though planes often only put out standard pressure at altitude).
8. I see 20ish, half highway, half stoplight to stoplight, spirited driving.
S2K= Great summer/2nd car
Jan 19, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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But you have to realize that the Evo community isn't free from idiots. Not to say that problems only happen to idiot owners, but most of the problems that you read about are probably more related to the neglect or misuse by the owners than to the car itself. I've owned my current Evo since it came off of the showroom floor almost four years ago (and I had another one before it), and I haven't encountered a single problem. But I have a bone stock Evo, I follow the maintenance schedule, I don't launch the car, etc.
Jan 19, 2011 | 05:41 PM
#41
If you are worried about repairs or the car breaking down I would suggest getting an X since it will still be under warranty. IX's warranties are still valid in the US, but as soon as you bring it to Canada it's done and gone. I inquired about a few things at my local Mitsubishi that would be covered under warranty (STI owners pre 2007 are still covered in Canada with their US cars), but they denied me of course
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Jan 28, 2011 | 04:42 AM
#42
s2's are great cars.. had mine for 4 years.. and even had both the s2, and the evo at the same time.. s2 was paid for already and my evo is less than 200 a month. i could have kept both, but the s2 just sat there.. evo is a great car!! but im finding myself wanting a s2 again, after 7 months of not having it!!so, just get both!!
Jan 28, 2011 | 07:14 AM
#43
I think this is the crux of the matter. Most any car has manufacturing/design flaws. Our cars don't, not really. Sure, one can cite a lack self-maintaining paint, or transfer cases that cannot withstand a triple-disc being sidestepped at 650whp, but I'm not sure we can refer to these things as true weak points, unless we outline a more explicit realm of reference.
Jan 28, 2011 | 08:13 AM
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But you have to realize that the Evo community isn't free from idiots. Not to say that problems only happen to idiot owners, but most of the problems that you read about are probably more related to the neglect or misuse by the owners than to the car itself. I've owned my current Evo since it came off of the showroom floor almost four years ago (and I had another one before it), and I haven't encountered a single problem. But I have a bone stock Evo, I follow the maintenance schedule, I don't launch the car, etc.
I would not call my ride even close to lightly modded, but I built her for performance and reliability with a lot of margin of safety. The car has been very reliable after we worked out all the modding bugs.
Jan 28, 2011 | 08:27 AM
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The best option would be to buy whichever allows you the greatest enjoyment overall. Life is short and enjoying it is what it's all about.
Personally, I wouldn't buy a Tacoma. I would rather spend my money on a diesel powered 3/4 ton truck. For roughly $20-25K USD, you can find a nice truck that will allow you to go pretty much anywhere you choose. Likewise, with a programmer, intake, and exhaust (~$1K) you will see better gas mileage and power out of the diesel than you will out of the Tacoma or Evo. If I were looking to DD a vehicle in the conditions you mentioned I'd look for either a 06-07 5.9 Dodge 2500 [325 hp (242 kW) 610 lb·ft (827 N·m) of torque] or 01-02 7.3L Ford F-250 [275 hp (205 kW) and 520 ft·lbf (710 N·m) of torque]. Both trucks have drivetrains that will run 500K miles and were made to handle abuse.
As for the Tacoma or Evo...both will serve you just fine.
Personally, I wouldn't buy a Tacoma. I would rather spend my money on a diesel powered 3/4 ton truck. For roughly $20-25K USD, you can find a nice truck that will allow you to go pretty much anywhere you choose. Likewise, with a programmer, intake, and exhaust (~$1K) you will see better gas mileage and power out of the diesel than you will out of the Tacoma or Evo. If I were looking to DD a vehicle in the conditions you mentioned I'd look for either a 06-07 5.9 Dodge 2500 [325 hp (242 kW) 610 lb·ft (827 N·m) of torque] or 01-02 7.3L Ford F-250 [275 hp (205 kW) and 520 ft·lbf (710 N·m) of torque]. Both trucks have drivetrains that will run 500K miles and were made to handle abuse.
As for the Tacoma or Evo...both will serve you just fine.