Sell me on an Evo/STi based on my needs and wants.
Feb 20, 2011, 12:17 PM
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Have both here. 05 STi(roomates) and 05 EVO. Both are a little over your HP wish. Both have 35r's and several mods. So I will just wing it..
Sound.. STi
Handling.. Evo hands down
ease of working on.. Evo by a very little.
DD comfort... depends on the springs and or coil-overs you pick.
Seats.. tie
Price.. Evo
low end torque.. STi
Power--EVO
Pics for fun
Sound.. STi
Handling.. Evo hands down
ease of working on.. Evo by a very little.
DD comfort... depends on the springs and or coil-overs you pick.
Seats.. tie
Price.. Evo
low end torque.. STi
Power--EVO
Pics for fun
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Feb 20, 2011, 12:39 PM
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I drove both and ended up with an evo, mainly based on price. The sti's were about 3-5k more for basically same year, mileage, etc. I love the subies ( i owned a wrx for 6 years) but at the end of the day price and ease to mod made me buy a evo. It all depends on which one you like to look at better honestly. Pick the one you find the most attractive and be happ!
Feb 20, 2011, 12:41 PM
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+1 i got used to my car and jumped to 382 whp and 430 tq and you still always want more
Feb 20, 2011, 01:14 PM
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Have both here. 05 STi(roomates) and 05 EVO. Both are a little over your HP wish. Both have 35r's and several mods. So I will just wing it..
Sound.. STi
Handling.. Evo hands down
ease of working on.. Evo by a very little.
DD comfort... depends on the springs and or coil-overs you pick.
Seats.. tie
Price.. Evo
low end torque.. STi
Power--EVO
Pics for fun
Sound.. STi
Handling.. Evo hands down
ease of working on.. Evo by a very little.
DD comfort... depends on the springs and or coil-overs you pick.
Seats.. tie
Price.. Evo
low end torque.. STi
Power--EVO
Pics for fun
By "price" do you mean purchase price, mod prices, or both? And is the difference very much in your opinion?
Is the power/torque difference very noticable on the street? Really what I want to know is, does the STi feel that much stronger in the midrange and does the Evo have a peakiness to it? Or what?
I drove both and ended up with an evo, mainly based on price. The sti's were about 3-5k more for basically same year, mileage, etc. I love the subies ( i owned a wrx for 6 years) but at the end of the day price and ease to mod made me buy a evo. It all depends on which one you like to look at better honestly. Pick the one you find the most attractive and be happ!
Feb 20, 2011, 03:45 PM
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Thanks! So to elaborate, does your roommates STi still have aftermarket suspension and bushings/sways, etc and the Evo still has it hands down?
By "price" do you mean purchase price, mod prices, or both? And is the difference very much in your opinion?
Is the power/torque difference very noticable on the street? Really what I want to know is, does the STi feel that much stronger in the midrange and does the Evo have a peakiness to it? Or what?
I went through that also... but I finally reigned myself in financially. That or I grew up.
By "price" do you mean purchase price, mod prices, or both? And is the difference very much in your opinion?
Is the power/torque difference very noticable on the street? Really what I want to know is, does the STi feel that much stronger in the midrange and does the Evo have a peakiness to it? Or what?
I went through that also... but I finally reigned myself in financially. That or I grew up.
We both have cams, Sti has a built shortblock, Evo has ported head; Both have tubular manifolds and full exhaust.....same basic turbo. The added displacement spools ~600RPM quicker. There is a little more low end grunt in the STi. But the EVO seems to pick up the pace a bit faster. SO I think the DD part is sorta a draw.. the EVO is a bit more of an upper range rpm car. Side note, I am also coming from a 650 RWTQ pick-up truck that owns both till 65mph. To me they both have expected 4cy tq.
Price: buy in price is what it is.. you know this. Price for mods and price for more HP is much more reasonable in the EVO. The Suspension, wheels, tires, etc are the same $.
Also if you think you will stop at 350hp... I wish you luck. I think a perfect DD can be had with 450-500hp. Mine drives almost like stock, until you wind it out. Solid drive it anyplace. I also was going to be happy at ~350... I was for a few months.
The lighting in the Evo sux (non-hid). I am going to do a TSX retro-mod projector conversion when I get a chance... I also will darken the chrome on the housings. After this, it will be a rock-star in the lightning dept. Parts for this project are ~500bucks.
Hope this helps...
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Feb 20, 2011, 04:54 PM
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Had an 04 STI for 133K mi (6 years )and now drive a 05 Evo MR
Hi!
My STI was bulletproof in stock form, it was not modded.
NO problems EVER even though it was driven hard daily.
Got 133k out of original clutch.
Low end torque STI.
Easy revving motor EVO
Braking tie.
Seats EVO, wish I could adjust them up and down though.
Handling at limit EVO.
Handling during normal driving tie.
Styling I like both, I like the EVO 8 hoodline as more functional (actually perfect).
Rear wing tie.
Easier to mod with more parts available EVO.
I've only had the EVO for 35000 miles so far 1 year, and it's so far 100% reliable at 83,000 miles, I'm just replacing the clutch now, standard wear and tear nothing special here.
The good thing is if you can make a mistake with your choice, you still have an incredible car.
My STI was bulletproof in stock form, it was not modded.
NO problems EVER even though it was driven hard daily.
Got 133k out of original clutch.
Low end torque STI.
Easy revving motor EVO
Braking tie.
Seats EVO, wish I could adjust them up and down though.
Handling at limit EVO.
Handling during normal driving tie.
Styling I like both, I like the EVO 8 hoodline as more functional (actually perfect).
Rear wing tie.
Easier to mod with more parts available EVO.
I've only had the EVO for 35000 miles so far 1 year, and it's so far 100% reliable at 83,000 miles, I'm just replacing the clutch now, standard wear and tear nothing special here.
The good thing is if you can make a mistake with your choice, you still have an incredible car.
Feb 20, 2011, 06:26 PM
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The Sti has struts, springs, f&r sways, some chassis braces, endlinks, somekind of aftermarket DCCD ctl. bushings and 17in wheels. The Evo has Stance Coilovers, Rear sway, 18in wheels.... that's it. The EVO owns it in daily ride and quick maneuvers, more feedback I guess...To draw a different picture, The Sti is like a sharp pocket knife and the Evo is like a scalpel.
We both have cams, Sti has a built shortblock, Evo has ported head; Both have tubular manifolds and full exhaust.....same basic turbo. The added displacement spools ~600RPM quicker. There is a little more low end grunt in the STi. But the EVO seems to pick up the pace a bit faster. SO I think the DD part is sorta a draw.. the EVO is a bit more of an upper range rpm car. Side note, I am also coming from a 650 RWTQ pick-up truck that owns both till 65mph. To me they both have expected 4cy tq.
Price: buy in price is what it is.. you know this. Price for mods and price for more HP is much more reasonable in the EVO. The Suspension, wheels, tires, etc are the same $.
Also if you think you will stop at 350hp... I wish you luck. I think a perfect DD can be had with 450-500hp. Mine drives almost like stock, until you wind it out. Solid drive it anyplace. I also was going to be happy at ~350... I was for a few months.
The lighting in the Evo sux (non-hid). I am going to do a TSX retro-mod projector conversion when I get a chance... I also will darken the chrome on the housings. After this, it will be a rock-star in the lightning dept. Parts for this project are ~500bucks.
Hope this helps...
We both have cams, Sti has a built shortblock, Evo has ported head; Both have tubular manifolds and full exhaust.....same basic turbo. The added displacement spools ~600RPM quicker. There is a little more low end grunt in the STi. But the EVO seems to pick up the pace a bit faster. SO I think the DD part is sorta a draw.. the EVO is a bit more of an upper range rpm car. Side note, I am also coming from a 650 RWTQ pick-up truck that owns both till 65mph. To me they both have expected 4cy tq.
Price: buy in price is what it is.. you know this. Price for mods and price for more HP is much more reasonable in the EVO. The Suspension, wheels, tires, etc are the same $.
Also if you think you will stop at 350hp... I wish you luck. I think a perfect DD can be had with 450-500hp. Mine drives almost like stock, until you wind it out. Solid drive it anyplace. I also was going to be happy at ~350... I was for a few months.
The lighting in the Evo sux (non-hid). I am going to do a TSX retro-mod projector conversion when I get a chance... I also will darken the chrome on the housings. After this, it will be a rock-star in the lightning dept. Parts for this project are ~500bucks.
Hope this helps...
Hi!
My STI was bulletproof in stock form, it was not modded.
NO problems EVER even though it was driven hard daily.
Got 133k out of original clutch.
Low end torque STI.
Easy revving motor EVO
Braking tie.
Seats EVO, wish I could adjust them up and down though.
Handling at limit EVO.
Handling during normal driving tie.
Styling I like both, I like the EVO 8 hoodline as more functional (actually perfect).
Rear wing tie.
Easier to mod with more parts available EVO.
I've only had the EVO for 35000 miles so far 1 year, and it's so far 100% reliable at 83,000 miles, I'm just replacing the clutch now, standard wear and tear nothing special here.
The good thing is if you can make a mistake with your choice, you still have an incredible car.
My STI was bulletproof in stock form, it was not modded.
NO problems EVER even though it was driven hard daily.
Got 133k out of original clutch.
Low end torque STI.
Easy revving motor EVO
Braking tie.
Seats EVO, wish I could adjust them up and down though.
Handling at limit EVO.
Handling during normal driving tie.
Styling I like both, I like the EVO 8 hoodline as more functional (actually perfect).
Rear wing tie.
Easier to mod with more parts available EVO.
I've only had the EVO for 35000 miles so far 1 year, and it's so far 100% reliable at 83,000 miles, I'm just replacing the clutch now, standard wear and tear nothing special here.
The good thing is if you can make a mistake with your choice, you still have an incredible car.
Feb 20, 2011, 06:49 PM
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The headlights are not a bad fix. If you source the parts it's not too bad. few hours, few beers.. done.
Good luck on your quest... I was also here. I have driven crappy Evo's and Sti's. So give each a chance. Well maintained is more important than low miles. I am a fan of forum cars, at least there is a much larger chance that the car was at least cared for by an enthusiast.
Feb 20, 2011, 06:58 PM
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Have both here. 05 STi(roomates) and 05 EVO. Both are a little over your HP wish. Both have 35r's and several mods. So I will just wing it..
Sound.. STi
Handling.. Evo hands down
ease of working on.. Evo by a very little.
DD comfort... depends on the springs and or coil-overs you pick.
Seats.. tie
Price.. Evo
low end torque.. STi
Power--EVO
Pics for fun
Sound.. STi
Handling.. Evo hands down
ease of working on.. Evo by a very little.
DD comfort... depends on the springs and or coil-overs you pick.
Seats.. tie
Price.. Evo
low end torque.. STi
Power--EVO
Pics for fun
Sorry for the thread jack, but you should tell ur roomie to powdercoat his wheels black and get some rally armor flaps. His car would be absolute sex then.
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I had an 05 STI for 90k some odd miles and it was a great car that gave me 0 issues. It had basic stage 2 mods IE: exhaust and a tune. It was a good DD car but left me wanting more.
I now have an Evo IX and couldn't be happier. The car makes more power with basically the same mods that my STI had and pulls a lot harder up top which is a big plus to me. The steering is light years ahead which is also a big plus.
I tell people that my STI was by far the best car I ever owned which includes a Supercharged C5, an 02 Mustang and a 93 240sx. The Evo is on it's way to replacing the STI as the best car I have owned but I don't have enough seat time in it yet. I will say this, after having the Evo for close to 10 months I would have a really hard time going back to the STI.
EDIT: Steed77 said the seats are a tie, LMAO. They are not even close. The STI comes with Recaro knockoffs which are some of the worst seats I have ever sat in. Evo all the way in the seat department.
I now have an Evo IX and couldn't be happier. The car makes more power with basically the same mods that my STI had and pulls a lot harder up top which is a big plus to me. The steering is light years ahead which is also a big plus.
I tell people that my STI was by far the best car I ever owned which includes a Supercharged C5, an 02 Mustang and a 93 240sx. The Evo is on it's way to replacing the STI as the best car I have owned but I don't have enough seat time in it yet. I will say this, after having the Evo for close to 10 months I would have a really hard time going back to the STI.
EDIT: Steed77 said the seats are a tie, LMAO. They are not even close. The STI comes with Recaro knockoffs which are some of the worst seats I have ever sat in. Evo all the way in the seat department.
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I didn't read all the posts, but just to tie everything together....
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