Yeah, I'd sort of have to agree. I mean, getting two salesman to top each other will work to a certain point. But, for example with an IX MR, they probably will not be willing to offer anything less than 1,500 over invoice because the manager will be pissed.

 

two different sales managers. you'd be surprised what a sales manager will do to steal a deal from another team lol every sale is important to the salesperson and manager. the good ones would have you believe it's not, so that you get that "i'm lucky to be buying this car" attitude. that's bull. they need us alot more than we need them, and if more people would realize that you'd stop paying sticker for cars. if everybody used their backbones and just said, "No, i'm not paying that for this car," they'd have no choice but to come down. but some idiot out there will rush in and pay whatever ungodly price they name and throw off the curve. well that guy's not going to be me. if you go into battle well prepared, you've got nothing to worry about. you stick to whatever it is you do, let me handle the negotiations. it's what i do.

 

of course it will only work to a certain point, but i'd rather find that point than just stop at sticker. 1500 over invoice is better than the prices i've seen the people here pay so far. that would be a good deal if everybody else is paying sticker or more. wouldn't you say? you never know until you try. the most they can say is no. then you find another angle to attack from, and you keep attacking until you come to a satisfactory comprimise. i know some people don't like haggling, and i can understand that. i enjoy confrontation, and negotiations. i think of it as a game, and i don't quit until i win.

 

gl getting the 9 mr below sticker this year

 

thanks =) i shouldn't be the first to do so, and damn sure shouldn't be the last.

 

Actually it's called supply and demand. If supply is tight you will not get them to budge. If they have excess inventory they'll work with you. I'd like to see you go to Chevy and pick up a new Z06 for under sticker. If you can, I'll buy the car off of you tomorrow for $5k more then you paid. Deal? While you're at it can you get me a Ferrari F430 for a small discount? How about a CLS55? Good luck.

 

I think with the popularity of the car they wont deal much b/ im pretty sure as soon as that car gets there someone else will be trying to buy it and they may be willing to pay more than u.

 

I think with the popularity of the car they wont deal much b/ im pretty sure as soon as that car gets there someone else will be trying to buy it and they may be willing to pay more than u.

 

If I'm the GM of a dealership and I find out that one of my managers undercut another in order to steal a deal, they'd be fired.

 

u guys are drilling this guy for no reason, its not like what hes trying to do can't be done, i mean ****, give him a break, let him do what he says hes gonna do, we'll see soon enough what he gets the car for

 

haha and this is why you're not, nor will you ever be a GM at a dealership. business is flat out competition. all's fair in business, unless you get caught. that's how it works. i can tell you've never been in it. oh, and thanks for the economics lesson haha. every job i've ever had has been in business, or had some business aspects. i also took more than my share of classes on the subject in college, but if you had never given that crude half *** explaination of how the world works, i'd be lost. thanks alot. what would this thread be without you? better comes to mind.

 

thank you. instead of hating on me for bucking the system, you guys should thank people that do it. things don't change unless you change them. everybody's been paying sticker for this car. i intend to change that. from where i'm sitting, i really don't see how i COULDN't get the thing for less than sticker. it's just a car. he's just a salesperson. i am the almighty-serious-ready-to-buy-right-now-if-you-do-what-i-want-customer with perfect credit and 10k in cash to put down. in that scenario, the customer ALWAYS has the upper hand. it's just up to him whether he uses it correctly, or even at all.

 

Right, I own two factories and have just about 1,000 employees reporting to me. Damn I wish I was as smart as you and I especially wish that I could be a GM at a dealership one day. Maybe you can help me learn how things work.

 

You're not "bucking the system," you're trying to buy a car for less then sticker. Wow!

 

EDIT: Whoa, I didn't realize that flame war starting on page two. Here is some practical advise

Take your time and don't let the dealer give you any **** about it. Talk about the deal as if its nothing for you to walk away and DON'T make any friends. A couple of dealers on this site will tell you otherwise but they're just dealers. Try calling around your area and pitting dealers against each others and only talk to sales MANAGERs on the phone. I got my evo 8 @ launch for invoice thru a simple phone call. I traveled 70 miles away but thats nothing. The worst thing you could do is walk into the dealership and muck about for half of the day until the salesman gets done blowing the manager and then comes to rape you.

Yeah I love dealers...