Why not a bigger engine
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The reason I used it is simple, I couldn't be bothered figuring out how to convert from how many litres I put in per 100km of driving (which is what we do over here) into some gallon figure that can change between uk and the us, and miles, which we don't measure in over here either!
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i say screw the rally heritage (gasp) and just drop a 3.0 inline6 twin turbo in the Evo.
AWD is great for handling great low end torque...problem is the Evo never has great low end torque, in fact it loses that the more power it makes.
and everybody who said turbo lag doesn't get on their nerves once in a while is in denial. i'm still on the stock turbo and sometimes i want to break my windows.
now i'm not saying the 4g63t is a great powerplant. but with the recent wave of horsepower war and more and more cars coming out with bigger engines - some even with FI - i don't know how much longer the Evo platform can survive with a 2 liter turbocharged powerplant.
AWD is great for handling great low end torque...problem is the Evo never has great low end torque, in fact it loses that the more power it makes.
and everybody who said turbo lag doesn't get on their nerves once in a while is in denial. i'm still on the stock turbo and sometimes i want to break my windows.
now i'm not saying the 4g63t is a great powerplant. but with the recent wave of horsepower war and more and more cars coming out with bigger engines - some even with FI - i don't know how much longer the Evo platform can survive with a 2 liter turbocharged powerplant.
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More displacement is always a good idea. Not all road going versions of a rally car need to be 2 liters. Look a the U.S spec STI, it has a 2.5 liter engine, but the rally versions have two liters. As long as there are certain amount in 2 liter form the rest of the cars can have whatever kind of engine.
if you want more displacement, like a V6- think of the galant
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I'm very pleased with my MIVEC 4G63T. I am 100% stock and I have no issues getting my car going. As a matter of fact, I have gobs of pep with a mere 1/4" depression of the accelerator pedal throughout my daily driving speeds of 0-75 mph. I barely tap the pedal and the thing just goes like practically nothing else on the road. It's amazing. I drive around other cars like they're standing still. Hmm ... I wonder if you even own an Evo. Or, if you do, I wonder if you know how to drive it properly. I mean, you don't just smash the pedal to the floor from start. Drive any MR or any IX with their quicker ratio first gear and you'll better feel the high torque more quickly - that is, if driven properly. Turbos are at their best if they're gradually spooled. And when I say "gradual," I don't mean slow. I mean progressively.
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I don't own an evo, I own one of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Galant_VR-4 I make boost below 2000rpm and 15psi by 2500rpm
Turbo Lag is evil and the whole point of going to a twin setup on a v6 would be to minimise that lag. Look at how many people here are going to 2.2,2.3 or 2.4l setups to try and make that extra bit of power and less lag.
Turbo Lag is evil and the whole point of going to a twin setup on a v6 would be to minimise that lag. Look at how many people here are going to 2.2,2.3 or 2.4l setups to try and make that extra bit of power and less lag.
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If you do a bunch of stop and go driving and require instant response constantly, then, yeah, I can see even the MR's or IX's normal standing start to be inadequate. However, if the driver maintains gradual, progressive pedal application, then I don't see what the problem is. And how often does normal, spirited driving require stop and go jerks or pulses? When I drive, I wanna go and continue to go. The initial "go" without a launch isn't the most responsive and instant start, but it more than works for me. The vast usable torque from 3k to 7k is quite accessible when on the go. If you were talking about a car like the S2000, on the other hand, then I'd more agree with you. Really, though, the Evo is a torquey beast.
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Please tell me you were kidding? If not, come on, dude.
Question: Do you know what "WWW" stands for? I'll give you the answer, if you don't. The first and second Ws are for "World-Wide." It's not the American/British Web. Albeit, this is an American site, but to come off as arrogant and stupid, for lack of a better word, was, well, stupid and so uneducated and uncultured.
Unbelievable, man. Get out more and be more real and open to different things.
Also, please understand that "never ever again" is a strong, offending phrase.
Question: Do you know what "WWW" stands for? I'll give you the answer, if you don't. The first and second Ws are for "World-Wide." It's not the American/British Web. Albeit, this is an American site, but to come off as arrogant and stupid, for lack of a better word, was, well, stupid and so uneducated and uncultured.
Unbelievable, man. Get out more and be more real and open to different things.
Also, please understand that "never ever again" is a strong, offending phrase.
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I agree, the Caliber SRT is using the same type of engine, but they get a turbo'd 2.4l. WTF doesn't the Evo get the 2.4l? I am really hoping the MR version gets the 2.4l. I switched from a built 2.0 to a built 2.4l in my DSM and it was a huge difference. I could spool a 20% larger turbo at the same RPM (makes sense since there is 20% more exhaust). It made the bigger turbo's much more driveable.
I have been hoping for a 2.4l in the MR since the get go, hopefully it will!
I have been hoping for a 2.4l in the MR since the get go, hopefully it will!