Evo X impression from Auto week
#47
I'm sure Mitsubishi would LOVE to see an Evo X vs. R32 vs. 335i test. Any track, anywhere, anytime.
The last gen. CT9A set the bar so freakin' high in almost every performance test, nothing, save a WELL driven STI, under $50g's could touch it.
So the new X is slower by .2 sec. to 60 and quicker around the Mitsu. proving grounds by a full 2 sec. a lap compared to the Evo IX and you say other ill informed fanboys are laughing? At what exactly?
The last gen. CT9A set the bar so freakin' high in almost every performance test, nothing, save a WELL driven STI, under $50g's could touch it.
So the new X is slower by .2 sec. to 60 and quicker around the Mitsu. proving grounds by a full 2 sec. a lap compared to the Evo IX and you say other ill informed fanboys are laughing? At what exactly?
Last edited by Evozster; Sep 27, 2007 at 05:45 PM.
#49
if the production USDM Evo X can consistently get to 60 from a standstill in 4.5 seconds or less and get thru the 1/4 mile in 13.0 seconds or less then i'm going to be trading up.
Last edited by deegers82; Sep 27, 2007 at 05:57 PM.
#52
#53
2.2 would be nice, but why mitsu would worry about to provide a better machine if the sales are enough?
Mitsu is playing with fire. Look at the other automakers and you will see a huge step in the HP numbers, like:
M3 from 333hp to 415hp
330i from 260hp to 335i 310hp(340real)
F360 from 400hp to 493hp
M5 from 400hp to 500hp
911turbo from 415hp to 495hp
Nissan Skyline to 450hp, I think that 350Z is improving hp too.
Cayenne from 450 to 500
Corvette from 350 to 400 to 436 (base model) and more hot z06 510hp and Blue devil to 650hp
Viper from 500hp to 600hp
RS6 from 450hp to 567hp
EVO X from 286hp to 295hp 0.2 seconds slower. ? ? ? WTF????????
I agree with: let's wait for the final tests, but I'm not happy with the tests posted.
Mitsu is playing with fire. Look at the other automakers and you will see a huge step in the HP numbers, like:
M3 from 333hp to 415hp
330i from 260hp to 335i 310hp(340real)
F360 from 400hp to 493hp
M5 from 400hp to 500hp
911turbo from 415hp to 495hp
Nissan Skyline to 450hp, I think that 350Z is improving hp too.
Cayenne from 450 to 500
Corvette from 350 to 400 to 436 (base model) and more hot z06 510hp and Blue devil to 650hp
Viper from 500hp to 600hp
RS6 from 450hp to 567hp
EVO X from 286hp to 295hp 0.2 seconds slower. ? ? ? WTF????????
I agree with: let's wait for the final tests, but I'm not happy with the tests posted.
Last edited by k270kmh; Sep 27, 2007 at 08:19 PM.
#54
it may not bolt up the DSG trans. The ECU might be different since it needs to revmatch for downshift/upshift, launch control! injectors are different, MIVEC controls, and let's not forget traction control is integrated with EBD +ABS+AYC. S-AWC is all CAN controlled and fuctions as one unit! this conversion is almost impossible
#55
This is the best review I have seen yet, more information than the others. Here are some highlights:
"The added structure, combined with the 1.0-inch-longer wheelbase and 1.2-inch-wider track, results in a far more composed ride—no more “tin can on wheels” feel."
"Despite all the added size, structure and systems, the new Evo MR with the six-speed TC-SST is just 100 pounds heavier (including 11 pounds of sound deadener) than the 2006 Evolution IX MR. The infinitely more tunable GSR with the five-speed manual is just 59 pounds heavier."
"Output grows by only 9 hp and 11 lb-ft of torque, but a more responsive turbo and a flatter torque curve make the engine feel stronger than ever."
"Mitsubishi is still calling it an Evolution, but it’s a much bigger leap this time around."
"The added structure, combined with the 1.0-inch-longer wheelbase and 1.2-inch-wider track, results in a far more composed ride—no more “tin can on wheels” feel."
"Despite all the added size, structure and systems, the new Evo MR with the six-speed TC-SST is just 100 pounds heavier (including 11 pounds of sound deadener) than the 2006 Evolution IX MR. The infinitely more tunable GSR with the five-speed manual is just 59 pounds heavier."
"Output grows by only 9 hp and 11 lb-ft of torque, but a more responsive turbo and a flatter torque curve make the engine feel stronger than ever."
"Mitsubishi is still calling it an Evolution, but it’s a much bigger leap this time around."
#56
2.2 would be nice, but why mitsu would worry about to provide a better machine if the sales are enough?
Mitsu is playing with fire. Look at the other automakers and you will see a huge step in the HP numbers, like:
M3 from 333hp to 415hp
330i from 260hp to 335i 310hp(340real)
F360 from 400hp to 493hp
M5 from 400hp to 500hp
911turbo from 415hp to 495hp
Nissan Skyline to 450hp, I think that 350Z is improving hp too.
Cayenne from 450 to 500
Corvette from 350 to 400 to 436 (base model) and more hot z06 510hp and Blue devil to 650hp
Viper from 500hp to 600hp
EVO X from 286hp to 295hp 0.2 seconds slower. ? ? ? WTF????????
I agree with: let's wait for the final tests, but I'm not happy with the tests posted.
Mitsu is playing with fire. Look at the other automakers and you will see a huge step in the HP numbers, like:
M3 from 333hp to 415hp
330i from 260hp to 335i 310hp(340real)
F360 from 400hp to 493hp
M5 from 400hp to 500hp
911turbo from 415hp to 495hp
Nissan Skyline to 450hp, I think that 350Z is improving hp too.
Cayenne from 450 to 500
Corvette from 350 to 400 to 436 (base model) and more hot z06 510hp and Blue devil to 650hp
Viper from 500hp to 600hp
EVO X from 286hp to 295hp 0.2 seconds slower. ? ? ? WTF????????
I agree with: let's wait for the final tests, but I'm not happy with the tests posted.
civic SI 160 - 210
v6 Accord 240 - 278
350z 265 - 300
GTO 350 - 400
eclipse 210 - 263
mustang 265 - 300
cobra 390 - 500
etc etc etc...
the bottom line is that Mitsu answered our complaints about the cheapo interior and to keep price in perspective, they cut corners elsewhere... the biggest dissapointment from the 8 to the 9 was the LACK OF CHANGE! it's the same damn car besides 2 holes in the front bumper and Mivec.. we complained about that, so Mitsu changed the entire plan and now, with an entire new car, we still *****...
until Top Gear says the X is junk/awesome (and i haven't test driven it) i'll continue to remain neutral....
#57
it may not bolt up the DSG trans. The ECU might be different since it needs to revmatch for downshift/upshift, launch control! injectors are different, MIVEC controls, and let's not forget traction control is integrated with EBD +ABS+AYC. S-AWC is all CAN controlled and fuctions as one unit! this conversion is almost impossible
#58
even..
civic SI 160 - 210
v6 Accord 240 - 278
350z 265 - 300
GTO 350 - 400
eclipse 210 - 263
mustang 265 - 300
cobra 390 - 500
etc etc etc...
the bottom line is that Mitsu answered our complaints about the cheapo interior and to keep price in perspective, they cut corners elsewhere... the biggest dissapointment from the 8 to the 9 was the LACK OF CHANGE! it's the same damn car besides 2 holes in the front bumper and Mivec.. we complained about that, so Mitsu changed the entire plan and now, with an entire new car, we still *****...
until Top Gear says the X is junk/awesome (and i haven't test driven it) i'll continue to remain neutral....
civic SI 160 - 210
v6 Accord 240 - 278
350z 265 - 300
GTO 350 - 400
eclipse 210 - 263
mustang 265 - 300
cobra 390 - 500
etc etc etc...
the bottom line is that Mitsu answered our complaints about the cheapo interior and to keep price in perspective, they cut corners elsewhere... the biggest dissapointment from the 8 to the 9 was the LACK OF CHANGE! it's the same damn car besides 2 holes in the front bumper and Mivec.. we complained about that, so Mitsu changed the entire plan and now, with an entire new car, we still *****...
until Top Gear says the X is junk/awesome (and i haven't test driven it) i'll continue to remain neutral....
#59
I'll take the X's interior (and those spidery BBS's, powdercoated GG), but that's about it.
IMO, if you're going to 'upgrade' to the X, the car would probably be better off left stock, not even a turbo timer or anything else that could be used as a dealership scapegoat to deny a claim.
And it'd probably be best if it was driven by mum on her way to Starbucks. There really isn't an aggressive line to that car anymore than there is on an Altima coupe.
IMO, if you're going to 'upgrade' to the X, the car would probably be better off left stock, not even a turbo timer or anything else that could be used as a dealership scapegoat to deny a claim.
And it'd probably be best if it was driven by mum on her way to Starbucks. There really isn't an aggressive line to that car anymore than there is on an Altima coupe.
#60
After all the searching hopefully that this is not a repost.
Here is the link: http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../70927003/1065
After reading all the other threads about the evo x first impression on a test vehicle, it hits me that the all new evo is an awesome machine with a new character. I know that the purist will always want the rawness of the evo IX, but I guess until a test drive is done in person, we will mentally continue to battle of which evo is the greatest of all time.
Here is the link: http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../70927003/1065
After reading all the other threads about the evo x first impression on a test vehicle, it hits me that the all new evo is an awesome machine with a new character. I know that the purist will always want the rawness of the evo IX, but I guess until a test drive is done in person, we will mentally continue to battle of which evo is the greatest of all time.