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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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Watch as wallet melts when "unseen systems" break.
haha made me lol, good point
Old Sep 27, 2007 | 11:33 PM
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It seem fishy to me that all the reviews quote the exact same 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. C&D and Edmunds normally have vastly different times as they do testing slightly different.

Just having different drivers and atmospheric conditions would change the times a little.
there's nothing fishy about it. ALL these journalists went to the SAME press event in japan. i'm sure a mitsu test driver did some 0-60 and 1/4mile runs then ALL the mags quote the time the driver got. at press events like these i doubt mitsu would waste time letting EACH mag get a 1/4 mile run just to see if they get different numbers. so far 0-60 in 5 sec (with R&T stating 5.2) and 1/4 mile in 13.8

these numbers will change dramatically once the mags get their own cars to test in different conditions, etc.
Old Sep 27, 2007 | 11:33 PM
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For year's Porsche nuts felt the 1971 S was the best ever....Needless to say although the '71 S was a great car, I would have to say a number have come and gone that are better....Many folks fear change....
Agreed. Once the fanaticals get it in their head that what they own is the 'best ever' any kind of change in blasphemy. Just ask the E30 M3 nutters when the E36 M3 came out. Or the Porsche 993 to 996 to 998 series. Or even the Evo VI owners when the 'fat ***' Evo VII made it's first magazine cover.

Mitsu. will pick up a whole new breed of enthusiasts with the X. And with the X a whole new breed of soon to be fanatics. Three years from now those new fanatics will be on this very board bemoaning the changes Mitsu. dealt to the Evo XI, and so on and so on...
Change happens. The Evo IX holds a high place in automotive history. But it is still history. That makes all of us and the cars we own pretty much yesterdays news...
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by madfast
there's nothing fishy about it. ALL these journalists went to the SAME press event in japan. i'm sure a mitsu test driver did some 0-60 and 1/4mile runs then ALL the mags quote the time the driver got. at press events like these i doubt mitsu would waste time letting EACH mag get a 1/4 mile run just to see if they get different numbers. so far 0-60 in 5 sec (with R&T stating 5.2) and 1/4 mile in 13.8

these numbers will change dramatically once the mags get their own cars to test in different conditions, etc.
and here is a quote from edmunds when the ix came out....

"All Lancer Evo models come with a turbocharged 2.0-liter inline four rated at an impressive 286 horsepower and 289 pound-feet of torque. Power is delivered via a five-speed manual transmission on base and RS models, and a six-speed unit in the MR. An automatic transmission is not available. Standard on every Evo is a full-time all-wheel-drive system with an adjustable active center differential and limited-slip front and rear differentials. Expect 0-to-60 times in the mid-5-second range."

mid 5 seconds. amazing how a whole second was shaved off misteriously huh?
give the true results time to come out on the X before you stick your foot in your mouth.
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 05:43 AM
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2.2 would be nice, but why mitsu would worry about to provide a better machine if the sales are enough?
Mitsu is playing with fire. Look at the other automakers and you will see a huge step in the HP numbers, like:
M3 from 333hp to 415hp
330i from 260hp to 335i 310hp(340real)
F360 from 400hp to 493hp
M5 from 400hp to 500hp
911turbo from 415hp to 495hp
Nissan Skyline to 450hp, I think that 350Z is improving hp too.
Cayenne from 450 to 500
Corvette from 350 to 400 to 436 (base model) and more hot z06 510hp and Blue devil to 650hp
Viper from 500hp to 600hp
RS6 from 450hp to 567hp
EVO X from 286hp to 295hp 0.2 seconds slower. ? ? ? WTF????????

I agree with: let's wait for the final tests, but I'm not happy with the tests posted.
I think people should look at the entire performance # rather than just the HP. Lot of cars are now advertising HP increase but hide the fact that these cars got much heavier. I think the new M3 added around 230lbs and the new skyline (i'm guessing you mean the G coupe and not the GT-R) added 150lbs from previous model and it now has 330 hp up from 298hp. Not to mention some of these cars cost much more than the Evo. The main reason I bought the IX was because it offered more for the money than the competition. I think the X will do the same.
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by madfast
there's nothing fishy about it. ALL these journalists went to the SAME press event in japan. i'm sure a mitsu test driver did some 0-60 and 1/4mile runs then ALL the mags quote the time the driver got. at press events like these i doubt mitsu would waste time letting EACH mag get a 1/4 mile run just to see if they get different numbers. so far 0-60 in 5 sec (with R&T stating 5.2) and 1/4 mile in 13.8

these numbers will change dramatically once the mags get their own cars to test in different conditions, etc.
That is exactly how it is done. It's called a Long Lead Press Event. All manufacturers have them, and I'm sure they all used the same numbers that were put down by one test driver.
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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so if the IX MR weighs 3285lbs (from mitsubishimotors.com specification page)
the X GSR should weigh 59 lbs more equaling 3344lbs (not that huge of an increase). The X MR edition should be 3385lbs...decently under the 3500 lb mark everybody was expecting to see. (disclaimer, i'm at work and haven't had the time to go through the rest of the thread-sorry if this was already pointed out)
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Im curious about the X MR or the X MR SE ... Im also curious about the 2nd patch of Evo's released, because from experience I know that when something new comes out, the first patch is always simple, which means the second patch comes more equiped or it is always better (upgraded) so Im gonna hold my thoughts to that. (:
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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another autoweek article from this morning

http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...309280001/1065
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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the hp and 0-60 times are also dependent on $ amount of the vehicle. As the $ goes up so does the hp numbers. It's all about market segment competition. I'd love to pay $40-45K for a 4.0 sec 0-60 car.
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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This line really caught my eye.

[The all-new 2.0-liter MIVEC turbocharged engine features an all-aluminum construction and a more responsive mid-range punching out 280 hp and 310 lb-ft of torque in Japan-spec models (U.S. spec is 295 hp and 300 lb-ft).
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by dklau33
This line really caught my eye.
Ya...that caught my eye too. It seems like still follows the 280ps agreement.
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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Did everybody catch this from the Autoweek article "280 hp and 310 lb-ft of torque in Japan-spec models (U.S. spec is 295 hp and 300 lb-ft)." ? That's the first time a review has actually stated two different specs for the different regions.
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jackygor
Ya...that caught my eye too. It seems like still follows the 280ps agreement.
So let's assume that they are still following the agreement and are underrating the J-Spec model in terms of HP. Now the question is what is the difference between the two so that the J-Spec model has 10 more lbs/ft torque? ECU mapping?
Old Sep 28, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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"BBS wheels, saving about two pounds per wheel. But it doesn’t end there; the package also includes more aggressively tuned Bilstein dampers, a set of lighter two-piece brake discs and very sticky Yokohama A13 tires" + GSR = makeshift 5spd MR that is even lighter.


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