the "300 lb+" weight gain of the Evo X
#31
No i have gsr not a rs but one of your links
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...lution-rs.html
has a 9 rs doing 0-60 in 5.1 road and track has it in 4.4.... very large difference. guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens when road and track gets their hands on the X for an official review and actually launches the thing.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...lution-rs.html
has a 9 rs doing 0-60 in 5.1 road and track has it in 4.4.... very large difference. guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens when road and track gets their hands on the X for an official review and actually launches the thing.
#33
Using the numbers you gave....
jdm evo 9 = 3108 lbs
USA evo 9 = 3262 lbs
Thus, the US 9 is 154 lbs heavier.
If we apply this same weight gain to the X.......
JDM X = 3351 lbs
US X = 3351 lbs + 154 lbs = 3505 lbs.
That's a 243 lb weight gain which would make the claim of "about 300lbs heavier" seem pretty accurate.
jdm evo 9 = 3108 lbs
USA evo 9 = 3262 lbs
Thus, the US 9 is 154 lbs heavier.
If we apply this same weight gain to the X.......
JDM X = 3351 lbs
US X = 3351 lbs + 154 lbs = 3505 lbs.
That's a 243 lb weight gain which would make the claim of "about 300lbs heavier" seem pretty accurate.
#37
Okay Mr. Vin Diesel worshiping "I live life a quarter mile at a time" guy.
News flash! The Evo wasn't designed to dominate a straight line... it was designed to go around corners in all conditions with the latest technology to aid in the process. It just happens to go straight pretty well, but that's totally besides the point.
How many Porsche/BMW/Lotus/etc owners do you know that bought their cars to just go down a simple, straight, boring line? Answer... none if any. When I buy the X, I wont buy it to go straight. I keep that to the turbo Neon and Mustang crowd.
News flash! The Evo wasn't designed to dominate a straight line... it was designed to go around corners in all conditions with the latest technology to aid in the process. It just happens to go straight pretty well, but that's totally besides the point.
How many Porsche/BMW/Lotus/etc owners do you know that bought their cars to just go down a simple, straight, boring line? Answer... none if any. When I buy the X, I wont buy it to go straight. I keep that to the turbo Neon and Mustang crowd.
Last edited by jroller; Oct 18, 2007 at 06:05 PM. Reason: plurality
#39
Wow Vin Diesel thats original. You sir, apparently enjoy being embarrassed @ stoplights/dragstrip? I dont. Do you agree that most of a sports cars credibility comes from acceleration times? Do you think that the feared reputation of 2jz te Supras was built on its outstanding ability to corner? What about the new ZO6? Would the new ZO6 be the the "talk of the town" if it laid down 13 second 1/4 mile times? Could all these fancy electronic AWD systems and not shifting your own gears anymore make up for shortfalls in driver skill? Could you be making up for a physical shortfall of your own by calling others Vin Diesel?
It doesn't matter. If you want the fastest thing around build a damn race car not, a street car that tries to be a race car. Even then someone will always be faster.
I personally am getting sick of seeing this obsession with 0-60 and quarter mile times. Just give me something that is lots of fun to drive and reasonably quick. I'm not racing anybody on the ride home from work and neither are most people.
Let's face it the vast majority of drivers are going to run out of talent long before the car runs out of ability in just about anything but a straight line anyway.
#43
Could you be making up for a physical shortfall by needing to have the fastest thing on 4 wheels?
It doesn't matter. If you want the fastest thing around build a damn race car not, a street car that tries to be a race car. Even then someone will always be faster.
I personally am getting sick of seeing this obsession with 0-60 and quarter mile times. Just give me something that is lots of fun to drive and reasonably quick. I'm not racing anybody on the ride home from work and neither are most people.
Let's face it the vast majority of drivers are going to run out of talent long before the car runs out of ability in just about anything but a straight line anyway.
It doesn't matter. If you want the fastest thing around build a damn race car not, a street car that tries to be a race car. Even then someone will always be faster.
I personally am getting sick of seeing this obsession with 0-60 and quarter mile times. Just give me something that is lots of fun to drive and reasonably quick. I'm not racing anybody on the ride home from work and neither are most people.
Let's face it the vast majority of drivers are going to run out of talent long before the car runs out of ability in just about anything but a straight line anyway.
#44
the obsession with 0-60 and 1/4 miles times stems from our curiousity in knowing how fast it will accelerate. They do it with EVERY single car. I thought the stock power was decent on the 9, but if it were to accelerate any slower, I just wouldn't be interested no matter how well it can turn. Chill out man, i think you need one if these
#45
Lotus Elise drivers don't care much about raw hp numbers, and are all about the handling right? Well, they introduced a cheaper entry level Lotus Elise S model here in Singapore, and not many people are buying. I'm not buying because the straight line performance (0 to 60 in high fives) turnes me off - and the engine in this version doesn't seem like it can put out much more with small mods.
Miatas handle like dreams, but I wouldn't be caught dead driving one. They're slooooow in a straight. If I was in the market for a budget roadster, give me an S2000 anyday, at least that's got decent grunt in a straight.
A sportscar shouldn't only be about one performance parameter - it should have a healthy mix. Handling is critical, but so is straight line grunt. I wouldn't call a Bentley Continental GT a sports car, and IMHO, a Mazda Miata doesn't do a great job of being a sports car either.