Mitsubishi develops a new engine platform (4J10)
Oct 20, 2011, 04:59 PM
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That 1.8L is for the Global Small Car isn't it? or was that a 1.2L they were talking about for the GSC (aka "Colt
...
And about all the other stuff Mitsu's said about the next Evo which might be a 1.8L turbocharged with front-mounted (or was it rear-mounted) electric engines to each wheels and what not...
I'm sure I've read somewhere they were planning such configuration
Anyhow, I love the news thanks Evosoul; this shows Mitsu is at least doing something other than letting their cars rust for a decade before improving their technology once more... Mitsu has sold 70k cars year-to-date... More money means more development, means there still hope for us and the Evo
Someone from MMNA also said (I think I read at MT) that the Eclipse might be revived soon... Concept RA, lightweight, 1.8L turbo anyone?
...And about all the other stuff Mitsu's said about the next Evo which might be a 1.8L turbocharged with front-mounted (or was it rear-mounted) electric engines to each wheels and what not...
I'm sure I've read somewhere they were planning such configuration
Anyhow, I love the news thanks Evosoul; this shows Mitsu is at least doing something other than letting their cars rust for a decade before improving their technology once more... Mitsu has sold 70k cars year-to-date... More money means more development, means there still hope for us and the Evo
Someone from MMNA also said (I think I read at MT) that the Eclipse might be revived soon... Concept RA, lightweight, 1.8L turbo anyone?
Oct 20, 2011, 06:45 PM
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Good info! Glad to see Mitsu progressing, but it seems like they're progressing away from Evo's. It's hard enough nowadays to get a manual AWD car and I know for a fact that even Subaru is looking into auto Sti's which by the way they already have in other parts of the world but it's just your regular auto box which sucks. If nissan had a manual R35, I'd be breaking the bank to get my hands on one, but after owning a MR, the technology is all there, but in the process, they've removed the human fun factor.
Oct 22, 2011, 09:25 PM
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Didn't mitsu develope a new engine back in 08 with chrysler and kia/hyundai? In that case, the daimler-chrysler relationship lasted into something like 09.
Oct 23, 2011, 08:07 AM
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For Mitsubishi it left a bad taste in their mouth. And Hyundai had the most to gain, because at least they got insight into the 4B1X platform. To put this into perspective. The companies didnt exactly share technology. Just standardize a engine block design. The technology remains the property of teach company who participated.
Oct 23, 2011, 05:30 PM
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I knew that they had development going on, but no one could tell me straight up if it would be fleet wide or small implimentation. The fact that they are crossing it in to the SUV's tells me that it is going to be fleet wide.
This doesnt mean the end of 4B1XT development as people have been worried about. A few big Japanese aftermarket vendors have kindly expressed their vested interest in the 4B11T platform to Mitsubishi. And the fact that they spent Millions developing it, I personally dont think it will be something swept away that easily.
But I think this is still good news to confirm that Mitsubishi is still marching consistently in one direction. Part of the problem Mitsu has had lately is that no one. (aftermarket or end user) have any idea what is going to happen to the cars they love to drive, develop for, or MODIFY.
Once the Mitsu road map is laid out, then we will get another wave of growth.
(fingers crossed)
This doesnt mean the end of 4B1XT development as people have been worried about. A few big Japanese aftermarket vendors have kindly expressed their vested interest in the 4B11T platform to Mitsubishi. And the fact that they spent Millions developing it, I personally dont think it will be something swept away that easily.
But I think this is still good news to confirm that Mitsubishi is still marching consistently in one direction. Part of the problem Mitsu has had lately is that no one. (aftermarket or end user) have any idea what is going to happen to the cars they love to drive, develop for, or MODIFY.
Once the Mitsu road map is laid out, then we will get another wave of growth.
(fingers crossed)
I really wish that Mitsubishi would have carried on the Evo theme with a 4B11T that had lower emissions and better fuel economy. Sadly, it appears that Mitsubishi has caved into the greens/environmentalists. I read recently where cars are not that popular anymore in Japan. Even Honda has stopped the almighty Civic Type R. Not sure where Subaru is going, but I would not be surprised to see them sharing technology with Toyota and use more hybrids. That leaves Nissan with the 370Z and GT-R. How long they can persevere is anyone's guess, but I would surprised if those platforms are around in 5 years in their present state.
Oct 23, 2011, 05:39 PM
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I get that, and really appreciate you giving us the info!
What makes me sad as an Evo guy is that all of us (this forum) are kind of a red headed stepchild. A high number of Evo guys have anti-green behaviors- They run catless, they install larger turbos that require more fuel, etc.
The things we prize about these cars are changing drastically. The new engine is SOHC, auto stop and go, more lightweight, more compact. Read: Slow.
Mitsubishi is kowtowing to CAFE and will alienate it's redheaded stepchild in the process unless they can pull a rabbit out of their hats.
What makes me sad as an Evo guy is that all of us (this forum) are kind of a red headed stepchild. A high number of Evo guys have anti-green behaviors- They run catless, they install larger turbos that require more fuel, etc.
The things we prize about these cars are changing drastically. The new engine is SOHC, auto stop and go, more lightweight, more compact. Read: Slow.
Mitsubishi is kowtowing to CAFE and will alienate it's redheaded stepchild in the process unless they can pull a rabbit out of their hats.
Yes Seth, issue is mitsu is not listening to the markets but instead is insisting in listening to the government,, I sure hope the gov buys plenty of these new green cars because I sure won't.
This small nitch market is crying out loud for a raw evo like the good 4G63 usto be
Oct 23, 2011, 06:31 PM
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Thank you thank you !
Yes Seth, issue is mitsu is not listening to the markets but instead is insisting in listening to the government,, I sure hope the gov buys plenty of these new green cars because I sure won't.
This small nitch market is crying out loud for a raw evo like the good 4G63 usto be
Yes Seth, issue is mitsu is not listening to the markets but instead is insisting in listening to the government,, I sure hope the gov buys plenty of these new green cars because I sure won't.
This small nitch market is crying out loud for a raw evo like the good 4G63 usto be
My dream Evo would be something the size of an Evo IX or even slightly smaller, with a weight reduction of 100-200 pounds. Then, I would love to see an aluminum, closed deck block. Add in direct injection and more boost and you would have a killer Evo. Sadly, it will never happen.
The "new" technology is being forced upon us come hell or high water. Truth be told, the powers to be don't even like people having individualized transportation. The vision of many of these people is for mass, public transportation. Where I live in Minnesota, they are going full speed ahead with light rail even though it is a total bust. Ridership is ridiculously low, yet they are adding more lines and corridors. Controlling transportation is one more step in controlling people.
Dec 8, 2011, 07:07 AM
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Mitsu is one of the very first who developed the Direct-inject Engine Technology of the industry, why everyone else have their DJ engines on the market, but Mitsu has NONE!!?? What are u THINKING!!???
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Mitsubishi didnt really gain much from the collaboration.
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