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Sep 2, 2004, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GPTourer
I think the vortex generators work in conjunction with the wing. As in, by itself it wouldn't do anything.
Neil, were you saying the steering feel in the '05 STi was way better as compared to the '04 STi, or way better then the '05 MR? Or both?
Neil, were you saying the steering feel in the '05 STi was way better as compared to the '04 STi, or way better then the '05 MR? Or both?
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Sep 2, 2004, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Outlaw
Hrmmm does this 5k rev limiter only work from launch or is it whenever I am driving I cant stick the clutch in and rev it past 5k.....If so how would downshifting to a lower gear at say 6k rpm's work?
Sep 2, 2004, 04:22 PM
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I'm guessing that the 5,000 rpm limit is also based on current speed. Like < 10mph or something.
Otherwise, every time the MR had to downshift and slow down, it would be such a hassle, and the STi would've won since the MR would've been a complete pain to work with.
Otherwise, every time the MR had to downshift and slow down, it would be such a hassle, and the STi would've won since the MR would've been a complete pain to work with.
Sep 2, 2004, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Outlaw
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Yup, I'd agree. I never noticed this at the Streets track. I believe it has something to do with speed or lack thereof when launching.
Sep 2, 2004, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by modvp
EVO Neil, are you considering getting the MR?
Is the MR better? Yup. Can I justify the price difference after driving one? Definitely. Am I going to sell my six month old Evo for one? At this point no, but it's not because the MR wasn't impressive. It was. It's more like I have bad timing.
Sep 2, 2004, 04:55 PM
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I wonder how much the '05 STi's new yaw-rate sensor contributed to the increased performance. It is a bit unnerving to read that the 05 STis feel slower than the 04s.
Thank you for posting the article.
Thank you for posting the article.
Sep 2, 2004, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 05STiDrv
I wonder how much the '05 STi's new yaw-rate sensor contributed to the increased performance. It is a bit unnerving to read that the 05 STis feel slower than the 04s.
Thank you for posting the article.
Thank you for posting the article.
The '05 posted better lap times around Streets even though it was 2 mph slower up the front straight than the '04, so it was making time up with the improved suspension and steering enhancements. Believe me, it's much better than the '04.
Sep 2, 2004, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO Neil
I believe that Subaru's slower performance was due to Subaru reflashing the '04 for those that complained of pinging and making that flash standard for '05. Most likely they took away some timing advance which would cause it to lose power in my opinion. The other thing that could have contributed was the low miles on the engine as it was tight. Our non-flashed '04 felt much quicker.
The '05 posted better lap times around Streets even though it was 2 mph slower up the front straight than the '04, so it was making time up with the improved suspension and steering enhancements. Believe me, it's much better than the '04.
The '05 posted better lap times around Streets even though it was 2 mph slower up the front straight than the '04, so it was making time up with the improved suspension and steering enhancements. Believe me, it's much better than the '04.
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Sep 2, 2004, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO Neil
This may just be a crappy California gas causing the pinging issue...
That would bother me a bit if Subaru did indeed do this. My '05 is on a strict diet of Sunoco Ultra 94 and I don't plan on running anything less, so the ECU shouldn't be setup for weak 91. It will be interesting to see what Cobb Tuning (and others) can do with the '05 ECU maps.
I'm amazed that the MR put down more power than the STi. Pretty darn impressive.
Sep 2, 2004, 05:52 PM
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Hey.... correct me if I am wrong but in the magazine they made it sound like the MR would only be getting the HP and Torque increase.... It was talking about how the MR had faster spool up than normal EVO's. I think it said something about only on the MR. About the 5 grand rev limiter at stop lights and draq strips.... I think thats better... like someone said before... built in launch control.