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Old Aug 5, 2007, 02:55 AM
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hello, i am wondering if you need a wideband to accuratly look at the knock sum the car makes. now when i click on the knock sum there is none but i was wondering if i need a wideband to do it.

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no...

it might just be that you dont knock...
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and if there is no knock then there is no chance of me blowing my motor any time soon?
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i just checked and i have 1-2 counts around 6300 to 6400 rpms. is that bad or is it acceptable?
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thats ok.... no knock is best, otherwise less than 4 is ok...
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well id say its acceptable, my car is running weird, i have a vendor here working on the email flash, im going to have to lower my boost down to 21 again, otherwise leaving it at 23.5-24 im knocking as high as 18 counts around 7100rpm and a consistent 6-9 from 6300 rpms so id say 1-2 counts is good, or you can pull timing one degree and possibly get none
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Thanks for the info
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18 is very high - I wouldnt drive on boost in those areas until you get tuned!
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Originally Posted by 06 SLOW EVO
hello, i am wondering if you need a wideband to accuratly look at the knock sum the car makes. now when i click on the knock sum there is none but i was wondering if i need a wideband to do it.
To answer your original question regarding a wideband- it is used to measure your Air/Fuel Ratio, that is how many parts air: to 1 part fuel. This is extremely useful for tuning to adjust your High and/or Low Octane fuel maps.

However, without this guauge, one can look at knock sum to tune your high octane map- richening the mixture or adjusting timing when you see counts of knock.

If you see a count of 6+ knock, your evo's ECU will divert to the low octane fuel map as a safety net.

I'd say if you are not seeing any knock it is because you don't have any- meaning that your car is tuned well or perhaps you could lean it out more until you see knock counts and then adjust timing for maximum power.

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