S1's vs S2's vs S3's
Feb 17, 2008, 09:33 PM
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JRB, i can do that for sure, but it will take some time because my baby is tucked away with 3 ft of snow blocking the entrance. The graph is comfortably nestled in the back seat. I will see if i can get to it though. Do you know Nvr2old? He was there the day i was dynoed, and i noticed he has since made like 400( 385 previously) with pretty much the same setup except different cams. I want to know his secret.
Feb 17, 2008, 09:54 PM
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I am on a Green now actually. The cams peaked out 7150 or so and I want more. Plus there are some plans for a little more radical setup, though the S2's have been tested on one stock turbo IX that I have seen logs from here in the NW.
The S1's helped me make 353/312 recently at about 20psi (MBC malfnction), and more with more boost before it really started going haywire. Anyway, when they are in I will make sure to give a full write up.
The S1's helped me make 353/312 recently at about 20psi (MBC malfnction), and more with more boost before it really started going haywire. Anyway, when they are in I will make sure to give a full write up.
Feb 17, 2008, 10:03 PM
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Greg,
Have you tested the BR 272's, Jun 272's or Tomei 280's against your S2's? I'll be installing my HTA 35R soon.(I do have a head job and built 2.0 block)????
Thanks,
Vin
Have you tested the BR 272's, Jun 272's or Tomei 280's against your S2's? I'll be installing my HTA 35R soon.(I do have a head job and built 2.0 block)????
Thanks,
Vin
Feb 18, 2008, 04:22 AM
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I am on a Green now actually. The cams peaked out 7150 or so and I want more. Plus there are some plans for a little more radical setup, though the S2's have been tested on one stock turbo IX that I have seen logs from here in the NW.
The S1's helped me make 353/312 recently at about 20psi (MBC malfnction), and more with more boost before it really started going haywire. Anyway, when they are in I will make sure to give a full write up.
The S1's helped me make 353/312 recently at about 20psi (MBC malfnction), and more with more boost before it really started going haywire. Anyway, when they are in I will make sure to give a full write up.
Those are some very nice numbers JB, I wasn't sure if you had the S1's or not, but now seeing your numbers as well as Milldogs's, is solid proof that the cams definately perform.
JRB, i can do that for sure, but it will take some time because my baby is tucked away with 3 ft of snow blocking the entrance. The graph is comfortably nestled in the back seat. I will see if i can get to it though. Do you know Nvr2old? He was there the day i was dynoed, and i noticed he has since made like 400( 385 previously) with pretty much the same setup except different cams. I want to know his secret.
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Feb 18, 2008, 07:36 PM
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JRB- Yeah they definitely work well. I made 353 @ 20 and the same day there was a car that we tuned that made 353 running 24ish without cams. The most I made that day was 383 before the boost controller totally went weird and I started getting 33psi spikes. I am pretty sure that the 383 shouldnt count though (other than it was only at 6K 
) as it was an aborted run with high knock and it still made some numbers.
I dont want anyone to think I am in anyway unhappy with the S1's. I think they are great cams for normal cars and normal usage. I am just one of those people that insists on keeping things new and exciting. I chose the S2's because GSC has a product I trust and like, service that meets my needs, and pricing that is hard to beat. I could have gone with Cosworth, JUN, etc. but GSC has a customer for life.
When I get rich and famous or Greg's cel number I am looking to get a CNC'd head as well. Not that I need it, but I want to try it and see what happens.
) as it was an aborted run with high knock and it still made some numbers.I dont want anyone to think I am in anyway unhappy with the S1's. I think they are great cams for normal cars and normal usage. I am just one of those people that insists on keeping things new and exciting. I chose the S2's because GSC has a product I trust and like, service that meets my needs, and pricing that is hard to beat. I could have gone with Cosworth, JUN, etc. but GSC has a customer for life.
When I get rich and famous or Greg's cel number I am looking to get a CNC'd head as well. Not that I need it, but I want to try it and see what happens.
Feb 18, 2008, 08:16 PM
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JB, based on your feedback and the type of driver that I'm, I think I am going with the S1 cams, knowing you made that much power, or course with one of your superb tunes I'm sure, I just want to hit 340whp on AMS's dyno and run 11.99999, that will make me a happy man.
I am looking for midrange and usable powerband and I think that the S1's will provide that.
BTW, don't forget those cam spec numbers you promised!!!
I am looking for midrange and usable powerband and I think that the S1's will provide that.
BTW, don't forget those cam spec numbers you promised!!!
Feb 18, 2008, 09:19 PM
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JRB, what did Nvr2old do to pick up the power? When i met him he was having problems with his ems, and i was shocked when Dave pulled his own ems out of another car and gave it to him. Now that's service!
JB, What boost controller do you run? Before i put my car away for the winter i was having issues with mine too, it would peak at around 21.5-22 and hold for a second, then it would start building more boost.
JB, What boost controller do you run? Before i put my car away for the winter i was having issues with mine too, it would peak at around 21.5-22 and hold for a second, then it would start building more boost.
Feb 27, 2008, 06:19 AM
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Martin @ AMS has a set of our S2's our S3H's and all of the cams listed plus the HKS and BC and cosworth, he is preparing a HUGE cam test on a GT35R 2.0L... should give you your answers..
Can you install S1 cams and not get a Tune imediately after. Or do you have to tune. Thanks
Mar 5, 2008, 07:00 PM
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I installed my first set of cams and thought I could go without a tune.. The stalling and drive ability was horrible without a tune.. so I think it is a GREAT idea to get a tune when installing cams... I would HIGHLY recommend it!