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Old Jun 5, 2007, 10:46 PM
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Who has the RRM Magnum fuel rail with their turbo?

Hey guys, I have the RRM magnum fuel rail and I am wondering who else has this on there turbo lancer.

I am currently running the FMU and fuel pump setup as my only other fuel mods.

I think i am running quite rich, as i am at 9.8-10.5 at full boost.

is this TOO rich? could i actually be losing power. This fuel rail is HUGE!

any help would be great.
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Originally Posted by kungfugirl
Hey guys, I have the RRM magnum fuel rail and I am wondering who else has this on there turbo lancer.

I am currently running the FMU and fuel pump setup as my only other fuel mods.

I think i am running quite rich, as i am at 9.8-10.5 at full boost.

is this TOO rich? could i actually be losing power. This fuel rail is HUGE!

any help would be great.
I've heard that 12.5 afr gets you the most power, so 9.8-10.5 might be a bit much. I can't back up what I have to say with anything, though. I'm goin off of what I've heard. Good luck sir kungfu
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Originally Posted by クリス
I've heard that 12.5 afr gets you the most power, so 9.8-10.5 might be a bit much. I can't back up what I have to say with anything, though. I'm goin off of what I've heard. Good luck sir kungfu

12.5 AFR is for N/A aplication.... Too lean for a Turbo engine.
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Originally Posted by Redlancer
12.5 AFR is for N/A aplication.... Too lean for a Turbo engine.
AAaahh..ok. Thanks for clearin that up for me
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i thought 11.0-11.5 was optimal for turbo.

im thinking i will pick up some 370cc injectors. but if i pick up the injectors i will take off the fmu? or does that still stay on?
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THis is to funny,

14:1 is for N/A and when turbo cars are in vacuum.
12:1 is a safe and good target to shoot for with a turbo.

but to answer the original question, you are running very...VERY rich. The fuel rail is not causing the richness, your fmu is. You need to change fmu's or the internals to lower the fuel pressure so you can lean out the a/f to get it back to 12:1. Untill then you are wasting gas and lossing a good 10-15hp atleast.

OH, and yes, i did have the same fuel rail.
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Originally Posted by cincy
THis is to funny,

14:1 is for N/A and when turbo cars are in vacuum.
12:1 is a safe and good target to shoot for with a turbo.

but to answer the original question, you are running very...VERY rich. The fuel rail is not causing the richness, your fmu is. You need to change fmu's or the internals to lower the fuel pressure so you can lean out the a/f to get it back to 12:1. Untill then you are wasting gas and lossing a good 10-15hp atleast.

OH, and yes, i did have the same fuel rail.
so u had the same rail with turbo?

what was ur a/f ratio at? did you have a wideband.

also 14:1 is way lean for NA, i was told 13:1 and even at about 13.3:1 i had some knock. this was on 91 octane.

thanks for you input though cincy.
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i didnt have a wideband, but i was in somewhere around 12:1. I had a gt28r custom setup.

For a N/A, stoich is 14.5:1.

But really, lean it out, and you will run much better.
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I would say around 11.0:1 for turbo, assuming you get it tuned on a dyno, should set you straight. Run a little richer if you are tuning yourself, giving you room for error.
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thanks guys, ill keep u aprised to my situation
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Originally Posted by cincy
THis is to funny,

14:1 is for N/A and when turbo cars are in vacuum.
12:1 is a safe and good target to shoot for with a turbo.

but to answer the original question, you are running very...VERY rich. The fuel rail is not causing the richness, your fmu is. You need to change fmu's or the internals to lower the fuel pressure so you can lean out the a/f to get it back to 12:1. Untill then you are wasting gas and lossing a good 10-15hp atleast.

OH, and yes, i did have the same fuel rail.
This guy is on point! For my setup I got the most whp at 12.0

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thanks man!

12:1 is great for power and 11.5:1 would be safer, but 11:1 is a little to rich unless you really need to baby the engine.
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Originally Posted by Melaz425
This guy is on point! For my setup I got the most whp at 12.0

I'm going to aim for 12:1 with open ecu. I have the zeitronix wideband with egt, so im set.

Just wondering what my fuel pressure should be at when i wot, i am installing my fuel pressure gauge from prosport tommorow. (i have the vortech fmu from rrm)
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Be careful with the vortech fmu. It made me run extremely lean to the point if I didn't get on a dyno to tune, I could have really messed up my engine. The wideband should help with that problem though. What computer are you using? A chipped stock ecu or stand alone?
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thats why you get a recalabration kit, they are $40 from vortech and im sure cheaper elsewhere. http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=31

dont know the current duty cycle of the injectors, but they should be able to push out just a little more to richen up the mixture.
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