any regrets on turbo for lancer?
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then turbo the GTS, i have the 09 GTS 2.4L manual daily driver 7psi RRM turbo kit, and through them and their dyno sheet they said 280 to crank, so im puttin like 240 to the wheels. And it runs great all day.... and with the kit they add a 5th injector so when your not in boost you still get the same stock gas milage.
I'm just considering 5-6psi, maybe an FMU first to get all the bugs worked out (piping, etc). Then upgrading over to new injectors and ECU flash. All of this is down the line though. I want to research parts for a while. Gotta call some dealerships and find out how much a ralliart manifold is (non twin scroll), compared to using the twin scroll evo manifold with a non twin scroll turbo (older 16G).
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RRM says 50% gain. 168 + 50%(168) = ~252 CRANK hp. when Evolve dynoed, he made 212 whp, which translates to about 254 crank hp (20% drivetrain loss?). I suspect you are making about the same amount of power as him, but idk!
when I was turbo'd, I made 276 WHEEL hp...~331 CRANK hp. yes, I was faster than an Evo for a little lol
and so start the "blowing up" jokes........
when I was turbo'd, I made 276 WHEEL hp...~331 CRANK hp. yes, I was faster than an Evo for a little lol
and so start the "blowing up" jokes........
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RRM says 50% gain. 168 + 50%(168) = ~252 CRANK hp. when Evolve dynoed, he made 212 whp, which translates to about 254 crank hp (20% drivetrain loss?). I suspect you are making about the same amount of power as him, but idk!
when I was turbo'd, I made 276 WHEEL hp...~331 CRANK hp. yes, I was faster than an Evo for a little lol
and so start the "blowing up" jokes........
when I was turbo'd, I made 276 WHEEL hp...~331 CRANK hp. yes, I was faster than an Evo for a little lol
and so start the "blowing up" jokes........
That being said, did xtremeboost use the ralliart manifold/ralliart single scroll turbo for your project? I'm considering it but the availability of used pieces is slim to none and i dont wanna spend $$$ for new from the dealer. I can the evo pieces much cheaper and switch out the wastegate actuator to 5psi
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RRM says 50% gain. 168 + 50%(168) = ~252 CRANK hp. when Evolve dynoed, he made 212 whp, which translates to about 254 crank hp (20% drivetrain loss?). I suspect you are making about the same amount of power as him, but idk!
when I was turbo'd, I made 276 WHEEL hp...~331 CRANK hp. yes, I was faster than an Evo for a little lol
and so start the "blowing up" jokes........
when I was turbo'd, I made 276 WHEEL hp...~331 CRANK hp. yes, I was faster than an Evo for a little lol
and so start the "blowing up" jokes........
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But you blew up, so its just like that video of the guy who made 600 something HP at 30psi on the stock motor on a DSM. Yeah he made it, but he still blew up haha.
That being said, did xtremeboost use the ralliart manifold/ralliart single scroll turbo for your project? I'm considering it but the availability of used pieces is slim to none and i dont wanna spend $$$ for new from the dealer. I can the evo pieces much cheaper and switch out the wastegate actuator to 5psi
That being said, did xtremeboost use the ralliart manifold/ralliart single scroll turbo for your project? I'm considering it but the availability of used pieces is slim to none and i dont wanna spend $$$ for new from the dealer. I can the evo pieces much cheaper and switch out the wastegate actuator to 5psi
i have an evoX turbo and an evoX header, but not the OEM header, a custom made one for the evox. also, im pretty sure you arent able to change the spring in an OEM wastegate (sealed shut)....you will probably need an aftermarket one.
i know, but im just saying that even IF RRM is true, he is making way less than he claims. mainly what im saying is, if hes going to base his new hp numbers off of anything, it should be what the maker of the kit states....
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haha i know i blew up, but like ive said MANY times before, theres more to it then i "just blew up"........
i have an evoX turbo and an evoX header, but not the OEM header, a custom made one for the evox. also, im pretty sure you arent able to change the spring in an OEM wastegate (sealed shut)....you will probably need an aftermarket one.
i know, but im just saying that even IF RRM is true, he is making way less than he claims. mainly what im saying is, if hes going to base his new hp numbers off of anything, it should be what the maker of the kit states....
i have an evoX turbo and an evoX header, but not the OEM header, a custom made one for the evox. also, im pretty sure you arent able to change the spring in an OEM wastegate (sealed shut)....you will probably need an aftermarket one.
i know, but im just saying that even IF RRM is true, he is making way less than he claims. mainly what im saying is, if hes going to base his new hp numbers off of anything, it should be what the maker of the kit states....
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Car's still up n runnin. Damn California Rain making it a ***** to drive through traffic though...silly California. Still have no regrets abour the turbo purchase.
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http://media.photobucket.com/image/e...s/actuator.jpg
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lol oh ok, yeah you can definitely change the actuator, I have a forge actuator with a custom made (by me) bracket holding it on. Also, you cant change the spring for sure because the stock actuator is sealed shut. on the forge, there are bolts holding it together, so you just unscrew them and pop the new spring in and bolt it back together! in the pic, for example, you cant open the actuator to change the spring, BUT you can tighten or loosen the section that connects to the flapper (with the eye hole), which adds or releases tension in the spring, basically raising or lowering the amount of pressure it takes to open the wasegate.
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From the research i've done so far i've compiled the following list to get the car up and turbo'd running 5-6psi max
-EVO X stock manifold (plus brackets)
-EVO X stock Turbo
-Replacement wastegate actuator (might have to do a little custom work her with brackets)
-EVO X intercooler piping + some custom piping (all ebay)
-EVO X stock intercooler
-Vortech 12:1 FMU (not the ideal fuel upgrade, but i'm gonna run it while i work the kinks out then upgrade injectors and tune and ditch it)
-Greddy Type S BOV (i really have a soft spot for these)
-O2 housing (if the turbo i get doesnt come with it, can be purchased from dealership)
-Custom 2.5 to 3" downpipe (exhaust shop)
-Catback (most likely an axle back with custom piping to the cat. purchase and installed in the next couple of months tho)
-At the least, a Wideband, a boost gauge, and possibly an EGT.
-Upgraded fuel pump (evo X if it can swap in, if not then walbro)
-Oil lines all custom (not hard to do)
Save from a few odds and ends, thats all pretty easily achievable and installable for $2500 or less. With injectors and a tune (especially if i tune it myself) its prob around $2500. And yes i've installed a custom turbo before, fixed parts, custom fabbed parts,etc. The only thing i cant do is welding so stock parts are the best bet.
-EVO X stock manifold (plus brackets)
-EVO X stock Turbo
-Replacement wastegate actuator (might have to do a little custom work her with brackets)
-EVO X intercooler piping + some custom piping (all ebay)
-EVO X stock intercooler
-Vortech 12:1 FMU (not the ideal fuel upgrade, but i'm gonna run it while i work the kinks out then upgrade injectors and tune and ditch it)
-Greddy Type S BOV (i really have a soft spot for these)
-O2 housing (if the turbo i get doesnt come with it, can be purchased from dealership)
-Custom 2.5 to 3" downpipe (exhaust shop)
-Catback (most likely an axle back with custom piping to the cat. purchase and installed in the next couple of months tho)
-At the least, a Wideband, a boost gauge, and possibly an EGT.
-Upgraded fuel pump (evo X if it can swap in, if not then walbro)
-Oil lines all custom (not hard to do)
Save from a few odds and ends, thats all pretty easily achievable and installable for $2500 or less. With injectors and a tune (especially if i tune it myself) its prob around $2500. And yes i've installed a custom turbo before, fixed parts, custom fabbed parts,etc. The only thing i cant do is welding so stock parts are the best bet.