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Nov 24, 2004, 09:09 PM
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Need more power
I have a 2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Es with a 2 and 1/4" exhaust cat back and an aem cold air intake. What can I do next to get more power out of my car any ideas?
Nov 24, 2004, 09:19 PM
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Evodreamer28: You have 3 options if you want big power. All the bolt-ons in the world aren't going to make the Lancer _really_ quick , so I would do one of these three.
1) Nitrous Oxide: This is very dangerous on the lancer. If you are going to do this, I would recommend a "wet-shot" setup, forged rods, forged pistons, and no more than a 40hp shot. That's still dangerous, but lancer engines are cheap.
2) Forced Induction. Get an intercooled turbo kit or a supercharger kit. This can be expensive, but it probably the most reliable way to make decent power on the lancer. I'd also recommend forged pistons and rods.
3) RRM is working on some higher compression internals. This should boost hp quite a bit. Keep an eye out for them, as I believe they are coming soon.
- Jason
4) P.S. This is a 4th method, but nobody has tried it. http://www.mmrusa.com/gudehead.htm has a "head swap" that claims a minimum of 40-58whp... that's the equivilant to 55-70crank-horsepower increase.
1) Nitrous Oxide: This is very dangerous on the lancer. If you are going to do this, I would recommend a "wet-shot" setup, forged rods, forged pistons, and no more than a 40hp shot. That's still dangerous, but lancer engines are cheap.
2) Forced Induction. Get an intercooled turbo kit or a supercharger kit. This can be expensive, but it probably the most reliable way to make decent power on the lancer. I'd also recommend forged pistons and rods.
3) RRM is working on some higher compression internals. This should boost hp quite a bit. Keep an eye out for them, as I believe they are coming soon.
- Jason
4) P.S. This is a 4th method, but nobody has tried it. http://www.mmrusa.com/gudehead.htm has a "head swap" that claims a minimum of 40-58whp... that's the equivilant to 55-70crank-horsepower increase.
Nov 24, 2004, 09:22 PM
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If you want to, you can simply get all the bolt ons, so header, intake manifold, throttle body, piggy back ecu and see how you like it then. If you still want more go with what lancerOZ said, as he said though, STAY AWAY FROM NOS. Should also consider doing some suspension mods. They can make the car "feel" faster.
Nov 24, 2004, 09:27 PM
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yeah, ambystom01 has a ggood point.
You might want to try all the popular bolt-ons (intake manifold, throttle body, header, intake, downpipe+catback, pully, wires) and then either get the RRM piggy back (a light "tune") .... or, you could spend the money on a fully customized EMS and have it tuned to optimize your exact mods. All of those bolt ons + a custom tuning w/ stand-alone computer can add big numbers too... it's just really expensive and time consuming.
- Jason
P.S. To clarify, the RRM piggy-back computer is a little black box that will change the way your car was "tuned" from the factory. It's similar to a fully customizable EMS, just much more primitive and simple. Basically with a full EMS you can change the "tune" to match any mods you add, or tune it to be more or less aggressive for different driving situations and octanes.
You might want to try all the popular bolt-ons (intake manifold, throttle body, header, intake, downpipe+catback, pully, wires) and then either get the RRM piggy back (a light "tune") .... or, you could spend the money on a fully customized EMS and have it tuned to optimize your exact mods. All of those bolt ons + a custom tuning w/ stand-alone computer can add big numbers too... it's just really expensive and time consuming.
- Jason
P.S. To clarify, the RRM piggy-back computer is a little black box that will change the way your car was "tuned" from the factory. It's similar to a fully customizable EMS, just much more primitive and simple. Basically with a full EMS you can change the "tune" to match any mods you add, or tune it to be more or less aggressive for different driving situations and octanes.
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Sorry Guys when it comes to my car I get kinda crazy. I want power and I got the money to do it I just need some feedback about what companies are worth the money.
Nov 24, 2004, 09:34 PM
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Evodreamer28: Dood, go for the head swap by montaray motorsports if you have $1600 to spend. Nobody has done it yet, and you'll be a hero because you can review it for us. If it really does add a minimum of 40 WHEEL-horsepower, then, that's damn good. With an extra 40whp you would be smoking a lot of cars under $25k.
Personally, that's the route I plan on going.... a complete head swap by montaray motorsports... if I still want more hp I can add a turbo kit and my lancer would be a highway monster.
- Jason
Personally, that's the route I plan on going.... a complete head swap by montaray motorsports... if I still want more hp I can add a turbo kit and my lancer would be a highway monster.
- Jason
Nov 24, 2004, 09:41 PM
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I know that would be cool dood and I got the cash, but im just kinda skeptical because just like you said there are no reviews or anyone who has had it done up to this point and time. I will see what happens in the next couple months and I will probably end up doing this because thats a pretty decent gain in hp.
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Originally Posted by evopimp
If you have the money.. why not get an EVO..
Dec 4, 2004, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by LancerOZ
1) Nitrous Oxide: This is very dangerous on the lancer. If you are going to do this, I would recommend a "wet-shot" setup, forged rods, forged pistons, and no more than a 40hp shot. That's still dangerous, but lancer engines are cheap.
Dec 4, 2004, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lookslikeanevo
you waited a whole 9 minutes and complained?....funny guy, be patient man
Also, this question gets posted almost every week, so some of the hardcore tuners tend to skip it and go to the more technically merited threads. The information is out there, but you gotta look around. Not sure if it's still on this site, but RRM had a nice article on what they thought was the most logical sequence in modding a car.