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You could easily hit 300 (after strengthening internals of course) if you can find a computer good enough to run a turbo and a quad TB at the same time....That would be difficult to program, but I guess it's do-able.
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Originally posted by M3 STYLELAB
oh wow ... the number one reason i hate posting so i forgot the add a + sign on my comment..... you automatically think i meant 300 straight for 2k ...... bro you could have just read when i said 300+hp earlier......... and the 2k was to bring the prices to arroung the same range if you haven't figure out yet that i was comparing something..... please don't talk to me like i drive a hon-duh okay....
just wish people would just read and try to understand rather than looking for errors to exploit so they look like "cool" or whateva ... i see this tooo damn often............
and i know some smartass is going to say .. why don't you edit your post man ....... sorry but it's a forum .. not english 101...
anyways thats my rant... adn i don't/ expect anyone to respond to it.. it's just a rant... leave it at that........ if i wasn't so
i wouldn't have bothered but it bugs sometimes
oh wow ... the number one reason i hate posting so i forgot the add a + sign on my comment..... you automatically think i meant 300 straight for 2k ...... bro you could have just read when i said 300+hp earlier......... and the 2k was to bring the prices to arroung the same range if you haven't figure out yet that i was comparing something..... please don't talk to me like i drive a hon-duh okay....
just wish people would just read and try to understand rather than looking for errors to exploit so they look like "cool" or whateva ... i see this tooo damn often............
and i know some smartass is going to say .. why don't you edit your post man ....... sorry but it's a forum .. not english 101...
anyways thats my rant... adn i don't/ expect anyone to respond to it.. it's just a rant... leave it at that........ if i wasn't so
i wouldn't have bothered but it bugs sometimes
YES, it will be easy to dump 2k into it and gain a large amount of power (ya know the money to HP ratio will be pretty good). By upgrading the turbo, intercooler piping, BOV, exhaust ect. it can all add up to 2k very quickly. After spending that much you should have EASILY passed the 350 mark. So next time, I know you are bored, dont take things too personally, I never called you a stupid hon-duh owner OR put you down in anyway......I was just simply stating my opinion.
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just buy the version and change the exhaust. My standard Jap evo 7 on a rolling road testbed put out 290bhp without any mods. Take off the cat, fit a straight through exhaust and hks air filter and bingo- 300+bhp
I'm not sure what you'll have to do to make the evo road legal in
I'm not sure what you'll have to do to make the evo road legal in
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unless you are absolutely in love with the US lancer a 300 hp goal is simply not going to be cost effective.
(side track time: I know guys that drive VWs, and have for 25 years. They drag, autoX these cars etc, and they are damn fast. But the cost to performance ratio for these cars is terrible... but they are passionate about them to the point where it makes sence to them)
generally speaking: taking a NA engine and applying forced induction is never a really great idea unless the manufacturer makes a forced version elsewhere. getting forged internals, an upgraded fuel system, and a turbo/ic setup is very expensive, especially considering the initial investment in your lancer.
my advice... appreciate your lancer for what it is. also know what it isn't. if you want a serious performance car, then get one... you don't have to spend all that much, and it doesn't have to be a dsm... there are tons of options.
(side track time: I know guys that drive VWs, and have for 25 years. They drag, autoX these cars etc, and they are damn fast. But the cost to performance ratio for these cars is terrible... but they are passionate about them to the point where it makes sence to them)
generally speaking: taking a NA engine and applying forced induction is never a really great idea unless the manufacturer makes a forced version elsewhere. getting forged internals, an upgraded fuel system, and a turbo/ic setup is very expensive, especially considering the initial investment in your lancer.
my advice... appreciate your lancer for what it is. also know what it isn't. if you want a serious performance car, then get one... you don't have to spend all that much, and it doesn't have to be a dsm... there are tons of options.
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Originally posted by uranium9v
You could easily hit 300 (after strengthening internals of course) if you can find a computer good enough to run a turbo and a quad TB at the same time....That would be difficult to program, but I guess it's do-able.
You could easily hit 300 (after strengthening internals of course) if you can find a computer good enough to run a turbo and a quad TB at the same time....That would be difficult to program, but I guess it's do-able.
If a rally car can make approx 300HP with a 34mm (I think that's the right size) restrictor plate, then you should be able to make 300HP with a single, big throttle body.
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Originally posted by iodine23
Why would you want or need a quad TB with a turbo? Those should be more applicable to NA applications where engine breathing is more critical. A turbo is already cramming the air in, a quad TB shouldn't help much at all.
Why would you want or need a quad TB with a turbo? Those should be more applicable to NA applications where engine breathing is more critical. A turbo is already cramming the air in, a quad TB shouldn't help much at all.
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dude, lets say the quad throttle bodie gives you like 50 whp and the turbo gives you like 100 whp comine them and you net over 150 whp so tahts why you would get both
the haltec ecu is good enough either that or the new aem that requires a laptop to run either way its 1k blown on an ecu
con rods, piston rods, and probably think i have a twin turbo design worked out here at a shop in town that will have me at upper 3's to 400 whp
its not that i want to spend less its that i get money and invest it along the way i don't have 30k just sitting around to dump into a new evo, trust me i do want one soooo bad so unless you want to buy it for me let me stick with the one and only car i have my gas milage shouldn't get that bad lol i am gettin 300 a tank right now all i have is an intake and cat-back so...
300 is an easy goal 4 or 5 is what would require some skill and serious cash flow
the haltec ecu is good enough either that or the new aem that requires a laptop to run either way its 1k blown on an ecu
con rods, piston rods, and probably think i have a twin turbo design worked out here at a shop in town that will have me at upper 3's to 400 whp
its not that i want to spend less its that i get money and invest it along the way i don't have 30k just sitting around to dump into a new evo, trust me i do want one soooo bad so unless you want to buy it for me let me stick with the one and only car i have my gas milage shouldn't get that bad lol i am gettin 300 a tank right now all i have is an intake and cat-back so...
300 is an easy goal 4 or 5 is what would require some skill and serious cash flow
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have you ever noticed all the twin-turbo guys do a single-turbo conversion to make big power? 300 whp would be pretty easy with a built motor & turbo, i would start to worry about halfshafts and the transmission though. mitsu is not known for their great transmissions
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300 hp is doable
pistons con rods stand alone fuel manegment and like the normal mods tb exhaust all that good junk
bam your done
thats my personal opinion
now gettin that power to the wheels is a dif story
pistons con rods stand alone fuel manegment and like the normal mods tb exhaust all that good junk
bam your done
thats my personal opinion
now gettin that power to the wheels is a dif story
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Originally posted by hardcoretuner
dude, lets say the quad throttle bodie gives you like 50 whp and the turbo gives you like 100 whp comine them and you net over 150 whp so tahts why you would get both
dude, lets say the quad throttle bodie gives you like 50 whp and the turbo gives you like 100 whp comine them and you net over 150 whp so tahts why you would get both
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Originally posted by iodine23
This isn't gran Turismo here. Adding a 50hp mod and a 100hp mod will not necessarily give you 150hp, especially when you consider that both the mods you're talking about work on the intake side of the engine.
This isn't gran Turismo here. Adding a 50hp mod and a 100hp mod will not necessarily give you 150hp, especially when you consider that both the mods you're talking about work on the intake side of the engine.
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Originally posted by pjal84
Smart man, and thankfully, smarter than most. The net power gained with modification will not be verbatim, HP + HP. It's all dependent on how well the mods work with each other.
Smart man, and thankfully, smarter than most. The net power gained with modification will not be verbatim, HP + HP. It's all dependent on how well the mods work with each other.
Even though they're a little dated, Modern Engine Tuning and Four-Stroke Performance Tuning by A. Graham Bell are great books to read... and Maximum Boost by Corky Bell.
They help debunk and explain a lot of the myths that are floating around... and explain that concept you mentioned of how mods can work together.
Remember too that the flipside of the "Gran Turismo" case can be true. You can bolt on a turbo and get 50hp or an exhaust and get 10hp, but the turbo plus exhaust may work for more than 60hp because they complement each other.
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Originally posted by iodine23
This isn't gran Turismo here. Adding a 50hp mod and a 100hp mod will not necessarily give you 150hp, especially when you consider that both the mods you're talking about work on the intake side of the engine.
This isn't gran Turismo here. Adding a 50hp mod and a 100hp mod will not necessarily give you 150hp, especially when you consider that both the mods you're talking about work on the intake side of the engine.