Million dollar question - Emanage
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no i havent tackled it yet, im waiting for my wideband being n/a im gonna tune it myself pm rhyzin and ghostrider. ghost has it installed and i think rhyzin does too... if not hes the one that gave me that pinout...
post up how it goes it you dont mind possibly do a write up if you get a chance. GL bro.
post up how it goes it you dont mind possibly do a write up if you get a chance. GL bro.
#7
this is for the evo 8 but is pinned the same for the OZ (assuming you have a 5 speed)
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/e...-ecuwiring.htm
you can get the shop wiring diagram for the OZ here but the link above is simpler. it's the same anyways.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...wiring+diagram
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/e...-ecuwiring.htm
you can get the shop wiring diagram for the OZ here but the link above is simpler. it's the same anyways.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...wiring+diagram
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i was just looking through that and i noticed fuel pressure solenoid, can we tap that and hook up a fuel pressure gauge? just a thought and sorry for the hijack... and another thought... since we also have a knock sensor (i dont know how accurate it is) and this is mainly for the turbo guys... but could you rig up some leds to it, so you know when your getting knock?
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as far as i know, a solenoid is not a gauge. a solenoid is something that electronically pops open. OZ's also don't have a wire there. as with some other accessories, the evo 8 pinout has wires that the OZ doesn't. i'm not aware of any stock electronics that monitor fuel pressure.
knock sensors are a bit more delicate than just hooking up an led. knock sensors are just mini-microphones that listen for a certain frequency of sound in the engine. for an effective knock sensor to work right, the electronics hooked up to one has to be able to filter out most of the engine noise and be dead on with the frequency of the knock. the ecu also has to be programmed well for knock. i don't know if our stock sensors are that good, but i don't think they would be since our cars are NA and wouldn't see really dangerous amounts of knock that could cause a lot of damage.
knock sensors are a bit more delicate than just hooking up an led. knock sensors are just mini-microphones that listen for a certain frequency of sound in the engine. for an effective knock sensor to work right, the electronics hooked up to one has to be able to filter out most of the engine noise and be dead on with the frequency of the knock. the ecu also has to be programmed well for knock. i don't know if our stock sensors are that good, but i don't think they would be since our cars are NA and wouldn't see really dangerous amounts of knock that could cause a lot of damage.
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fstgvr4: what are you trying to install that you need more that what's on the pic? If your answer is "timing/ignition harness" I'd caution you to not do that. I only know of one person who has the timing harness hooked up and he's blown coilpacks from leaving the car in the accessory position for more than five minutes.
Just $0.02 from a guy who's got his eManage installed, thanks to Rhyzin's map.
PS- damnit, I was going to give him the RRE EVO pinouts... thanks for beating me to it
Just $0.02 from a guy who's got his eManage installed, thanks to Rhyzin's map.
PS- damnit, I was going to give him the RRE EVO pinouts... thanks for beating me to it
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Originally Posted by rhyzin
as far as i know, a solenoid is not a gauge. a solenoid is something that electronically pops open. OZ's also don't have a wire there. as with some other accessories, the evo 8 pinout has wires that the OZ doesn't. i'm not aware of any stock electronics that monitor fuel pressure.
knock sensors are a bit more delicate than just hooking up an led. knock sensors are just mini-microphones that listen for a certain frequency of sound in the engine. for an effective knock sensor to work right, the electronics hooked up to one has to be able to filter out most of the engine noise and be dead on with the frequency of the knock. the ecu also has to be programmed well for knock. i don't know if our stock sensors are that good, but i don't think they would be since our cars are NA and wouldn't see really dangerous amounts of knock that could cause a lot of damage.
knock sensors are a bit more delicate than just hooking up an led. knock sensors are just mini-microphones that listen for a certain frequency of sound in the engine. for an effective knock sensor to work right, the electronics hooked up to one has to be able to filter out most of the engine noise and be dead on with the frequency of the knock. the ecu also has to be programmed well for knock. i don't know if our stock sensors are that good, but i don't think they would be since our cars are NA and wouldn't see really dangerous amounts of knock that could cause a lot of damage.
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I installed the Emanage over a month ago with the fuel/timing harness as well and the car hasn't fried a coil yet. I even had teh ACC turned on for 30 minutes with a temperture gauge hoked up to the coil pack and the temperature rose no more than 5 degrees by the end of the 30 minutes with no indication of it rising much higher if any.
I used the Road Race diagram to do the install initially after figuring out that the ECU pinouts for the Evo are pretty much the same minus a few wires.
The problem I am having is that when I am adjusting the fuel it doesn't seem to do anything. The car has a wideband and watching the display it doesn't show a change.
Do any of you guys no of a test (electronically) to make sure the wires are correctly connected? I have some ideas but, wanted more before diving in.
Thanks
I used the Road Race diagram to do the install initially after figuring out that the ECU pinouts for the Evo are pretty much the same minus a few wires.
The problem I am having is that when I am adjusting the fuel it doesn't seem to do anything. The car has a wideband and watching the display it doesn't show a change.
Do any of you guys no of a test (electronically) to make sure the wires are correctly connected? I have some ideas but, wanted more before diving in.
Thanks
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Gald to hear you got the timing harness to work... that's very cool, and I'd be interested in the pinouts that you used to hook it up That makes tow now that I know of
eManage's lights will flicker, and/or change colors as you pass through the RPM ranges if there is a not-zero setting. just sit in neutral and rev the car. If the lights flash then you're hooked up....
also:
Do you have a CEL? If so, you need to find out why. If it's just about anything other than O2 sensor related, you're in closed loop and the ECU is just giving you the finger.
If no CEL: Are you using the support tool? My first test would be to go to the 0 throttle, 500RPM box and keep making the number more negative (-5, -10, -20, etc) until the car kills itself. If it does, your eManage is changing the fule inputs. If not, something's wrong.
If you're NOT using the support tool.... I guess you'll just have to keep working with the wideband... and don't be afraid of big changes. Worst case is that the ECU goes closed loop for that RPM range (which is what happened to a buddy who was messing with the knobs and set it to -30 at 4500RPM and couldn't figure out why he had CEL and it ran like crap).
eManage's lights will flicker, and/or change colors as you pass through the RPM ranges if there is a not-zero setting. just sit in neutral and rev the car. If the lights flash then you're hooked up....
also:
Do you have a CEL? If so, you need to find out why. If it's just about anything other than O2 sensor related, you're in closed loop and the ECU is just giving you the finger.
If no CEL: Are you using the support tool? My first test would be to go to the 0 throttle, 500RPM box and keep making the number more negative (-5, -10, -20, etc) until the car kills itself. If it does, your eManage is changing the fule inputs. If not, something's wrong.
If you're NOT using the support tool.... I guess you'll just have to keep working with the wideband... and don't be afraid of big changes. Worst case is that the ECU goes closed loop for that RPM range (which is what happened to a buddy who was messing with the knobs and set it to -30 at 4500RPM and couldn't figure out why he had CEL and it ran like crap).
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Engineerboy:
Which table is the best to use to reduce the fuel using the support tool? I'm going to mess around with the car this weekend to see whats up. I'll send you the pinouts and wiring stuff for the ignition harness then too.
Which table is the best to use to reduce the fuel using the support tool? I'm going to mess around with the car this weekend to see whats up. I'll send you the pinouts and wiring stuff for the ignition harness then too.