Random Hiro

Can you hope to squeeeeze out of an automatic 4G94-OZ, minus the Nos and garbage pine tree air freshener?

For instance I'm looking to make this my daily beater, none of that drag strip nonsense, no autoX, Just town and city but I want that grin when I get out of the car and look back as I walk away.

Just thought I'd ask before I drop several grand and find out I'm only tappin the 200 mark.

I just graduated college and got this car when I started in 03. Told myself I'd do something with it afterwards, so here I am. I saved up a sweet 12 grand and I'm looking to get my hands dirty.

Oppinions? Advice? Atchung?!

Rossm

Yea sell it and combine the trade in value plus your 12 grand for a nice lightly used evo 9

ambystom01

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That is an insanely open-ended question. How do you want to make the power, NA, turbo, supercharger? How much power is enough? Maybe you should do some reading on here first and then ask less subjective questions.

coal

iTrader: (1)

I think the evo route is the best option with 12Gs to blow.

Rossm

However, if you do want to keep the lancer you might want to consider calling RRM and seing what kind of package they could make for you. With that much to spend at once that might be a good route to take as well.

Random Hiro

Yeah, I would sell my OZ if I didn't have some real good memmories in it. FYI It does have some sentimental value. I already thought of that, but thanks .

Lol. Thanks, ambystom01, for splitting me a new one. I guess technicality is a must around here, I am new to this forum and aparently it is obvious.
The way I see it, to bring this stock 4G94 up to par would take:


N/A? No.

For example:

The obvious Turbo charger
FMI w/Piping
Some sort of wideband
FP Pre-Turbo Oil Filter
Hydramist WIS
Turbo oil feed line
Turboback
Wiring, perhaps 4ga.
Ported head, intake and exhause manifolds
Chipped
Upgraded fuel rail and pump
Camshaft
Pulleys
CAI
Pistons + bearings, rods
Highflow cat
Exhaust
Throttle body
blah blah
Custom Intake Manifold Studs
Custom Power-Steering Lines
Engine mounts
screw the suspension and swar bars (until further notice)
eph the pine tree scent lol
Ect, etc.

And to keep the air cycling for the better on the go, that Carbon Trix EVO style Carbon Fibre hood looks all sorts of sexy, only I'd rather have it in the color of my car, along with the EVO VII style bumper, as the EVO X's and IX's aren't catching my eye.


Supercharger? No.
How much power is enough?
Well, if I can pull 350 out of it. Great. If not.. Then.. Heck, I'll still do what I can.
I've been reading the topics on this beast for a few weeks now. Never found anything asking the same question I just did.
All eyes on you ambystom01.

EvoJutsu

EVO!!! dont even waste time on ur OZ. IF u really really love ur OZ then go for it. But once u get that Evo.. man u will never ever regret it- it is superior in every way from looks, to drivetrain, power, and appeal. 12G ... time to get that Evo.

Random Hiro

I've searched long and hard for a good place that does good power packages for just lancer OZ's or Es's, but it seems the EVO steals all the glory.
Maybe I missed one or many, but RRM, yes I know of it and that's where I focus most on, along with another place.

Random Hiro

I kind of figured my question would be dodged.
Point is, Yeah an evo would be nice. But the God damned insurrance, once they found out, they'd.. well, you know.

I've got a friend who took a stock '02 Subaru imp. 2.5RS and gave it more power than a stock '06 STi.

I'm looking to do the same with the lancer OZ, only problem is it's AT w/FWD as opposed to MT w/AWD. HOWEVER! AWD has a parasitic loss, a lot more than FWD, from a launch it wouldnt be funny, from a roll FWD can take AWD. BUT
Back to my origianl question: Just how much power can you hope to squeeeeze out of an automatic 4G94-OZ, minus the Nos and garbage pine tree air freshener?

Random Hiro

I'd rather keep the car and keep the parts on the DL, you know? As opposed to, if on the random chance I get into a wreck and explain to them that I changed to a much faster sports car.

You and I both know that won't go over easy. Haha.

lancerrally45

iTrader: (22)

If you wanna keep the car, keep the car. evos are awesome in everyway, just some cant afford them. ive hurd of an oz getting out 300+.

ambystom01

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350hp is an insane goal and to be honest, I doubt you'd get it without having a car that isn't "fun" anymore, it'd require very aggressive mods and reliability would be crap. A lot of the stuff on this list is either useless or not made.
You don't need a pre-turbo oil filter, you already have a filter.
I don't even know what Hydramist is but I assume it's either meth or water injection, again not needed.
Oil line is part of the kit (how is a turbo going to run for more than 30 seconds without oil?) and a turboback is easy (catback+test pipe+custom downpipe). Know idea why you need new wires.
A ported exhaust manifold comes with the kit (at least if it's a good kit).
There are no reputable chips available, you can either have the stock ECU reflashed by WORKS or you can do what most turboed guys (soon to include me) do and get a piggyback from RRM, greddy, Haltech, etc..
Fuel system has to be upgraded to run a turbo.
Camshaft is a good idea.
Pulleys (or in our case pulley) don't make power, they just let the motor rev easier.
CAI is useless if you have a turbo.
Pistons and rods are only needed if you plan on big boost (above 12 PSI?).
High flow cat and exhaust are covered in the turboback you previously mentioned.
No idea why you need new intake mani bolts or powersteering lines.
Suspension is a good idea, it'll make the car feel 100 times faster.

Newfoundlancer

iTrader: (2)

Get the EVO and sell the OZ... turbo'ing a slush box?

I'm seeing nothing but disappointment in this threads overall goal.

ｸﾘｽ

iTrader: (10)

Honestly the most you can hope to get out of the lancer for a reasonable amount of money is around 300. There are few that ever make it past there, even less that take their lancers to that lvl. Sure you can beat a stock evo from a roll, but you've only got a few horsepower over the evo at the wheels, and if that evo is modified at all, you wont be able to take it. It's hard to face the fact with our lancers that those kind of cars are just out of our league. You can do whatever you want to your car, just realize it's limitations, and have fun while doing it

iufan4lifeul

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PnP heads
3 way valve
new springs/valves/bolts etc.
Connecting rods
RRM Pistons
RPW camshaft w/ cam gears
Greddy turboback with 3" downpipe and 3" exhaust with test pipe
Ported intake manifold/TB
Some type of T3/T4 turbo (not an expert)
Upgraded FMIC
BOV
Tial wastegate
Electronic Boost Controller
Greddy Emanage Ultimate
FPR
Walbro 255 fuel pump
550CC injectors (or WRX injectors)
Fuel Rail
LSD <------------------ A MUST HAVE FOR THIS BIG OF SETUP!!!
Transmission Fluid Flush/Rebuild/Hope to god you won't blow the **** out of it
Sticky tires
Lightweight Rims
Coilovers
Strut Bars
Crank Pulley
Motor Mounts

And your good to go