sXericerider

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With the support of so much money going into a 4g94 i would already think more practical and switch platforms. I would rather get a better bang for my buck then having the right of saying I have an out of the ordinary lancer (rather spend it on getting an evo and hanging out with the big boys). just my 2 cents.

sXericerider

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I'm all for our 4g94 lancers. dont get me wrong. I just dont want to have my lancer put up on a pedestal that makes it seem holy or something. It's just a DD for me

ambystom01

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OK well the average tuner. A lot of people on here can rationalize spending 5000$ to double their stock horsepower but I don't know a lot of people that can rationalize spending 50000$ in modding a car, any car for that matter.
Something else to consider, how often does that 500 HP Mirage break?

ambystom01

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We'll see how you feel about that in a few years.

Silver05Bullet

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we just built a mirage here in jersey with a fully built motor a 50 trim turbo makes about 380 hp on pump gas, its like a honda and it definitely did not cost 50000$

ambystom01

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We're talking about what it would cost to build a lancer to do the same. Moreover, 380 HP is not 500 HP.

MaD_CaNaBiCe

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well i for one will not give up on our lancers i think our cars are capable of alot of power and if i never went with a dohc conversion i would prove it that our sohc engines can make those number without spending $50000 this mirage here has custom fab work which may cost more than just direct bolt on parts but there is always ebay to me what really cost us money is our bottom end which alone is 1300 for pistons and rods but my point is that i feel our cars can make these numbers w/o dumping 50000 i think maybe 15000 is more reasonable if you get everything name barnd parts and professionally done.

MaD_CaNaBiCe

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here is one point u just have to shop around campared to the aem ecu which is 1400 you can get a megasquirt 2 ecu for 600 that's 800 bucks saved and that is one of the most if not the most essential mod you will need to make those numbers

sXericerider

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+1 also your talking about the 4g93 not the 4g94. I promise you if you used the same amount of money as you did on the 4g93 on a 4g94, you wouldnt get to 380 hp.

ambystom01

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You don't build a reliable and powerful car using Ebay parts, I'm sorry but that's nuts. 15000$ will just get you started, you can spend 15000$ on just the motor if you do it right (ie. you want to do more than one dyno run). I would suspect that for 500 HP the entire bottom end would need to be built. I'm not talking just rods and pistons, I'm talked about cylinder sleeves and everything. That would be a custom job. The head would need to be completely build with custom parts again (cam, valves, valve springs, port and polished head, etc). From here you'd have the intake side of things (custom intake manifold, custom throttle body), the exhaust side of things (custom downpipe and exhaust system, probably just straight off the downpipe), all the piping and of course the turbo system and probably nitrous system too. With this the tranny would need to be custom built since there's no way the lancer tranny can handle 500 HP. You'd want a LSD thrown in at the same time. The axles would have to be custom made, the STI is known for snapping axles when it makes big power and I can tell you that the STI has way beefier axles than the lancer. There's also all the wiring which isn't cheap, to put it into perspective, just the wiring harness for a WRC car is over 100000$. At the end of the day you'd also have just a dyno queen, you're naive if you think a 500 HP FWD car is anything close to a decent daily driver.

ambystom01

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To give you an idea of cost, we have a local guy who has spent close to 50000$ on his STI and he has about 500 WHP or so. He also started with a car with 300 HP. If you want to do it right, it's not cheap.

sXericerider

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More power to you when you do the conversion

sXericerider

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If you have a random $15000 lying around might as well go for a 4g63 conversion. That should be about the right amount of money to get all the fabrication to TRY to make it an AWD. way better than customizing the entire engine to make it into something its not.

ambystom01

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If you have 15000$ lying around, you might as well trade your car in for an Evo and call it a day.

depsy

iTrader: (14)

even once you get an evo you're not calling it a day...far from it, how much more do those owners spend on their cars on top of what it cost plus maintenance and insurance is more than our lancers