EVO 8 BUSHUR STAGE1 VS SRT4 stock
Nov 9, 2004, 08:49 PM
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If you cant beat him even with a stock Evo your driving sucks. There is no way the SRT4 would win unless drivers error happens. Take it to the track like others are telling you and show him who's king of the hill!
Nov 10, 2004, 01:26 AM
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Okay guys I have an evo and a pretty good knowledge of srts and he's is not completely wrong. If you race from around 30 he will suprise you. He might not win but he'll give you a hell of a run if he can get through he gears. If he spends about five bucks at home depot and does the sping mod to his wastegate and adds a simple bleed valve you'll be lookin at his tailights all day from a roll. Srt-4's are really resepctable cars the big reason none of them run that fast is because they have terrible traction problems in first and second gear because they start making big torque numbers very early in the rpm range. Oh and every srt-4 I've ever seen dyno sheets from has produced at least 218whp and most of them are around 225. Not to say that an evo isnt a much better car but dont underestimate srt's they're not just another "neon". Oh and he can make enough power to do elevens for around 4000 but he will have to spend more than that to get it to the ground.
Nov 10, 2004, 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Kuba23
are they 230 at the wheel stock ? and i mean i have a BUSCHUR stage 1 I know they are fast cars and i give him props i kinda like it too, but Him on the other hand, all it is to him is the SRT4 SRT4 SRT4 he sayin that $4000 can get him into 11's why do people bother with the EVO's then since the SRT4 is sooo damn easy to hook up and its fast ? i bought an evo myself couse i had no DOUBT in my mind that it is a better car and it is the best peformance car for the money u can buy
Yes, I believe they do infact dyno somehwre between 220-230fwhp. I've read that several places, so either it's a rampant rumor or it's true. I know the first year they were sold, they were 15hp less than what every other year has been. This is no secret though, Dodge added some stuff to boost sales.
- Jason
P.S. the SRT-4 responds just about as well to popular mods as the evo, and they have a limited-slip, so they put the power down well for fwd.
Nov 10, 2004, 05:18 AM
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when Sport Compact Car mag tested the 2003 SRT-4 here's the numbers they got:
Measured Wheel Hp: 223 hp @ 5700 rpm
Measured Wheel Torque: 250 lb-ft @ 3000 rpm
And since the 2004's have the Stage I upgrade injectors stock I'd say 230hp at the wheels is just about right.
I really don't have anything much to add to the discussion that hasn't been said already. The EVO costs $10k more for a reason.....because it performs that much better. In a straight line though SRT's can surprise and with $2k you can put 400hp to the ground. New motor mounts help the hop problem but ultimately you run into the limits of FWD. That's why I still want an EVO
Measured Wheel Hp: 223 hp @ 5700 rpm
Measured Wheel Torque: 250 lb-ft @ 3000 rpm
And since the 2004's have the Stage I upgrade injectors stock I'd say 230hp at the wheels is just about right.
I really don't have anything much to add to the discussion that hasn't been said already. The EVO costs $10k more for a reason.....because it performs that much better. In a straight line though SRT's can surprise and with $2k you can put 400hp to the ground. New motor mounts help the hop problem but ultimately you run into the limits of FWD. That's why I still want an EVO
Nov 10, 2004, 06:21 AM
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Yes you should win, but do not underestimate the SRT-4, for they are tough to beat from a roll. So if you are not on the top of your game, the SRT-4 can leave you wondering wtf just happend?
Nov 10, 2004, 06:26 AM
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Like some people have said the SRT is not a slow car. Stock vs stock EVO will lose on a roll (drivetrain lost). Unless you have a VAFC with BR setting or a flash and can drive you may not win.
I line up against one at the track. Not sure what he got but he edge me off the line (bad reponse time) but I was able to catch up and win but he was always on my tail. I ran 12.5x where he ran 13.5x.
I line up against one at the track. Not sure what he got but he edge me off the line (bad reponse time) but I was able to catch up and win but he was always on my tail. I ran 12.5x where he ran 13.5x.
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Nov 10, 2004, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MYEVOVIII
If you cant beat him even with a stock Evo your driving sucks. There is no way the SRT4 would win unless drivers error happens. Take it to the track like others are telling you and show him who's king of the hill!
Nov 10, 2004, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by NTHECRUX
Okay guys I have an evo and a pretty good knowledge of srts and he's is not completely wrong. If you race from around 30 he will suprise you. He might not win but he'll give you a hell of a run if he can get through he gears. If he spends about five bucks at home depot and does the sping mod to his wastegate and adds a simple bleed valve you'll be lookin at his tailights all day from a roll. Srt-4's are really resepctable cars the big reason none of them run that fast is because they have terrible traction problems in first and second gear because they start making big torque numbers very early in the rpm range. Oh and every srt-4 I've ever seen dyno sheets from has produced at least 218whp and most of them are around 225. Not to say that an evo isnt a much better car but dont underestimate srt's they're not just another "neon". Oh and he can make enough power to do elevens for around 4000 but he will have to spend more than that to get it to the ground.
my 04 SRT4 made 225 WHP bone stock, but with my mods now I should be around 290-300 WHP and like 310-320 tq.
Nov 10, 2004, 08:43 AM
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I dont doubt anything you guys said thanx for the responses i like BOTH cars but obviously i got the EVO couse i like it better i mean like i said i will give Props to 90 percent of cars out there him on the other story is just SRT4 i think he would race a viper right about now and he would still say that the srt4 would win of the roll