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May 8, 2006, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RedlineFL
This is what VW had to say... But still gti = slow
the new gti's are dynoing 190whp...so realistically they have 220ish at the crank 9same as a wrx_. with just a chip, turboback and cai...you are looking at 240whp and 300w tq. yes...off the line vw's are useless, but from a roll they are stupid fast.
funny ad though.
May 8, 2006, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by gb_junkie
yea, my stock 1.8t gti 20th would kill my brothers stock 02 wrx from a roll...especially from 50mph.
the new gti's are dynoing 190whp...so realistically they have 220ish at the crank 9same as a wrx_. with just a chip, turboback and cai...you are looking at 240whp and 300w tq. yes...off the line vw's are useless, but from a roll they are stupid fast.
funny ad though.
the new gti's are dynoing 190whp...so realistically they have 220ish at the crank 9same as a wrx_. with just a chip, turboback and cai...you are looking at 240whp and 300w tq. yes...off the line vw's are useless, but from a roll they are stupid fast.
funny ad though.
May 8, 2006, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Evoryder
don't know what you've been drinking ...but a chip won't give you no damn 300 torque...not even at the motor...i'd like to see that role race 
Oh I have been drinking what your mama have given me.
www.goapr.com
chip on the new GTI will get you to 300WTQ
May 8, 2006, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gb_junkie
yea, my stock 1.8t gti 20th would kill my brothers stock 02 wrx from a roll...especially from 50mph.
May 8, 2006, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by gb_junkie
with just a chip, turboback and cai...you are looking at 240whp and 300w tq. yes...off the line vw's are useless, but from a roll they are stupid fast.
May 8, 2006, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Az3ar
Oh I have been drinking what your mama have given me.
www.goapr.com
chip on the new GTI will get you to 300WTQ
www.goapr.com
chip on the new GTI will get you to 300WTQ
May 8, 2006, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jtsherri
With an MKV you'll definitely see this tq #, but whp is iffy... If you were talking MKIV, I'd call BS and send you a bag of it to back it up.
the mkiv 1.8t got something like 220hp with a chip, 180 stock.
and yes i am 100% sure my stock gti was faster than my brothers stock wrx from a roll...we did it several times. i'd slowly pull on him in every gear. from a standstill, he would always win...naturally. as soon as i put a chip, exhaust, cold air and mbc...my gti would pull on stock evo's from a roll.
the small turbo on the 1.8t and even the new 2.0T didn't need anytime to spool up, it felt like a strong v6 rather than a turbo 4 banger. it's power is linear and direct, unlike the wrx.
May 8, 2006, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RedlineFL
Dude that site says nothing about 300wtq it says 303tq probably flywheel.
May 8, 2006, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Az3ar
Oh I have been drinking what your mama have given me.
www.goapr.com
chip on the new GTI will get you to 300WTQ
www.goapr.com
chip on the new GTI will get you to 300WTQ
May 8, 2006, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gb_junkie
i was talking about the mk 5 there.
the mkiv 1.8t got something like 220hp with a chip, 180 stock.
and yes i am 100% sure my stock gti was faster than my brothers stock wrx from a roll...we did it several times. i'd slowly pull on him in every gear. from a standstill, he would always win...naturally. as soon as i put a chip, exhaust, cold air and mbc...my gti would pull on stock evo's from a roll.
the small turbo on the 1.8t and even the new 2.0T didn't need anytime to spool up, it felt like a strong v6 rather than a turbo 4 banger. it's power is linear and direct, unlike the wrx.
the mkiv 1.8t got something like 220hp with a chip, 180 stock.
and yes i am 100% sure my stock gti was faster than my brothers stock wrx from a roll...we did it several times. i'd slowly pull on him in every gear. from a standstill, he would always win...naturally. as soon as i put a chip, exhaust, cold air and mbc...my gti would pull on stock evo's from a roll.
the small turbo on the 1.8t and even the new 2.0T didn't need anytime to spool up, it felt like a strong v6 rather than a turbo 4 banger. it's power is linear and direct, unlike the wrx.
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Even the old 99` Impreza GT Turbo is faster then the GTI mk 5.. at Nuerburgring.
Results from http://www.track-challenge.com/main_e.asp :
Results from http://www.track-challenge.com/main_e.asp :
Impreza GT Turbo / Golf GTI (2005)
Manufacturer Subaru / VW
Testing Date 3/2000 / 11/2005
Engine 1994 cccm, 4 Zyl ,16 V / 1984 cccm, 4 Zyl , 16 V
Power 218 PS (160 KW) @ 5600/min / 200 PS (147 KW) @ 5100/min
Torque 290 Nm @ 4000/min / 280 Nm @ 1800/min
Transmission 0 (5) / 2 (6)
Weight 1290 Kg / 1421 Kg
Weight / BhP 5,9 Kg / PS / 7,1 Kg/ PS
0 - 100 Km/h 5,8 s / 6,8 s
0 - 200 Km/h 29,3 s / 34,3 s
0 - 200-0 Km/h 34,9 s / 39,6 s
Top Speed
229 Km/h / 233 Km/h
80 - 120 Km/h 4.Gear 6,6 s / 6 s
100 - 0 Km/h hot 41 m , 9,4 m/s / 36,1 m , 10,7 m/s
Transverse Acceleration 1 g / 1,1 g
Slalom Course 36 / 110m 120 / 131 Km/h - 124 / 134 Km/h
Round Time Nuerburgring 8.37 min - 8.53 min
Round Time Hockenheim 1.19,4 min - 1.21,8 min
Manufacturer Subaru / VW
Testing Date 3/2000 / 11/2005
Engine 1994 cccm, 4 Zyl ,16 V / 1984 cccm, 4 Zyl , 16 V
Power 218 PS (160 KW) @ 5600/min / 200 PS (147 KW) @ 5100/min
Torque 290 Nm @ 4000/min / 280 Nm @ 1800/min
Transmission 0 (5) / 2 (6)
Weight 1290 Kg / 1421 Kg
Weight / BhP 5,9 Kg / PS / 7,1 Kg/ PS
0 - 100 Km/h 5,8 s / 6,8 s
0 - 200 Km/h 29,3 s / 34,3 s
0 - 200-0 Km/h 34,9 s / 39,6 s
Top Speed
229 Km/h / 233 Km/h
80 - 120 Km/h 4.Gear 6,6 s / 6 s
100 - 0 Km/h hot 41 m , 9,4 m/s / 36,1 m , 10,7 m/s
Transverse Acceleration 1 g / 1,1 g
Slalom Course 36 / 110m 120 / 131 Km/h - 124 / 134 Km/h
Round Time Nuerburgring 8.37 min - 8.53 min
Round Time Hockenheim 1.19,4 min - 1.21,8 min