Think about it this way...would you recomend an Evo as someone's first car? Sure, they might be able to get lucky and drive it without wrecking it, but the temptation to push yourself is always there. The same goes for a street bike. You could get a new 600SS or heck, even a liter bike and not ever wreck it. But to be truely a good rider, you need to learn the fundamentals first. The easiest way to do this is on a beginner friendly bike. I would honestly recomend the Ninja 500 or if you are a little bit bigger a SV650. The best thing about beginner bikes is that there is always someone looking to get into riding, so they hold their resale value. Do it smart...don't be a squid and get a 600 just so people will think you are cool...real riders can smell out the posers

 

Both bikes are very good. For a first bike I would get the f4i. The gsxr-750 is a damn fast bike and is hard to ride with both wheels planted on the ground. If you get the f4i your going to want something faster very soon. I love suzuki's and imo riding a cbr feels like riding a horse where the gsx is way more comfortable. You might want to consider a gsr-600.

 

someone buy my 05 gsxr600!!!!

 

Why waste the money. Older bikes can be had for around 2K. They won't depreciate much when you "need" a bigger bike. and are much better to learn on. Carburated bikes deliver power smoother than the snatchy feeling of the first FI bikes, have steel frames, cheap parts all over the place.

I started riding a few years ago and got a 92 F2 as a track bike. I moved up through the groups and ride at a club racer level, advanced group. I have a former AMA superbike that is 100 lbs lighter and has almost 100 more HP. On the smaller tracks I run about 1 second slower. I also still pass many brand new Gixxer 1K and R1's on the old fat pig.

Very rarely I ride on the street, if I do its to hit the twisties early in the morning on weekends. I borrow a freinds Gix 600. I get asked all the time why I don't have the 1K since I already know how to ride. These are by the same guys with 1/2" chicken strips on their shiny litre bike that I can pass in turn with 2 spark plugs pulled. Learn to ride, don't ride what every other wannabe tells you you should be on. Pick up an F2 or F3, beat the **** out of it and sell it for $500 less than you paid to the next guy that needs to learn. Then in a few years buy a newer 600 or 750 and be thankful you learned how to be smooth first.

I'm in Asia right now and except for Moto GP they don't know what a litre bike is. They have to ride <250cc machines for a year before they can go to bigger bikes. Then they can upgrade to the a monster like an SV650. That is about the biggest bike on the market. Isn't it amazing that the fastest riders in the world never rode anything bigger than a 250?

 

^^
Bump and Amen.

 

ur gonna hurt urself on the 750, go witht he f4i. its far more versatile/forgiving for someone starting out. Then go from there

 

Mitsuskot,


I agree with Billace. I honestly think that you should start with a lesser performer and focus on comfort and driveability first.

To me is not a good idea to start you motorcycle experience with powerfull bikes, is just too much of a jump. In Europe they issue you 3 motorcycle lincenses A, (up to 125cc) A1 125-400cc, and A2 400cc and up and they do that for a reason. It takes you 2 years to finally get your big bike license, needless to say that you are very experience when jumping to the next higher category.

You can buy a use naked bike for a portion of the money, you wouldn't loose money re selling it and you will be much more proficient-ready rider for a bigger Japanesae sport bike.

just my .2c

Carlos

 

what are chicken strips? not the ones from BK...

 

They are the unused edges of the tires. The farther you lean the bike over, the the closer you will get to the edge of the tire.

 

Well on the street I would call them sane strips. Not a lot of runoff on mountain roads if you get it wrong... I especially hate the people leaning all the way over when their tires are almost on the inside line (when they are on the outside lane) but their fawking head is 1" off my bumper when I'm coming the other direction...I hate people trying to be heros on mountain roads...except when I'm doing it in my car

 

Well my girlfriend started on the F4I she loved it and i Just bought as my first bike a 600rr and have not had any problems with mine. I love the 600 rr and had no experiance at all on the street i have also raced dirt bikes for about 8 years now at the intermediate lvl. The F4I was a good choice though.

 

We have an area with great roads that sportbike riders use early in the morning on weekends. These days there are hundreds of bikes and you have to get there by 6am to have any decent runs. Squids are all over the place now, parking their amazing new, best bike ever made, in every corner. I've seen riders with great machinery lean less than the kickstand through a corner but then grab a fistfull of 150 hp and get to the next stop or as some of us call them turn. You will use the whole tire, knee dragging or not.

Hell, a few spirited entries into NJ jug handles should take care of chichen strips, some are nicely banked. But I do agree, the best place for this type of riding is the track. Its the only plce where a rider can get an idea of what these machines can really do. If they did they would learn that they "don't NEED a bigger bike" they NEED to learn how to ride the one they have.