350Z Track beats an MR around VIR?
Sep 30, 2006, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Kurt
I am going to put aside my love for the EVO. Why is it when a magazine does a comparison test of any vehicle versus the EVO and the EVO loses people get pissed? Is it not possible for the EVO to lose? Before you go off on me for being a "Lancer" driver, listen, I know the EVO is a great car but it is not unbeatable. As for it being beat by a Track Model 350Z, anything is possible. The only way to settle it is to have one person drive the same car around the track and see what vehicle gets the better time or find two drivers that have the same vehicles and see if they are willing to go race on a track.
Oh yeah I forgot to say, "that sucks that the EVO lost, the race was rigged."
Oh yeah I forgot to say, "that sucks that the EVO lost, the race was rigged."
1. The owner can't drive.
2. Listen, the gas was never floored.
3. The STi wasn't running right.
4. He didn't know he was supposed to be racing.
It's a vicious circle. Around and around and around we go.....until Sinister Subaru gets banned for saying, "Cut the bullsh*t. The other car was simply the better car."
But, FWIW, the 350Z is a real pile.....I thought it sucked when I drove one, and it ain't much better to look at either.....
Sep 30, 2006, 07:45 AM
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Seriously though, this is shocking, the EVO is a car that has bested porches and $80,000 Audi's and for some unexplainable reason can't beat the heaviest of 350Z coupes around a track. Sorry I don't care what Car and Driver says the EVO is a better track car period.
Sep 30, 2006, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 3000ways
Seriously though, this is shocking, the EVO is a car that has bested porches and $80,000 Audi's and for some unexplainable reason can't beat the heaviest of 350Z coupes around a track. Sorry I don't care what Car and Driver says the EVO is a better track car period.
C&D will give the victory to whichever company sends them the largest donation. Why is it that BMW never loses a "comparo?" It surely isn't because they're the best car.
Automotive magazines' greatest use is for toilet paper. It's bathroom reading.
Sep 30, 2006, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by STISTL
I don't care if the Z is faster, feels faster or is sexier. The EVO is just a better car period.
Sep 30, 2006, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Sinister Subaru
There is nothing sexy about the Z. It's proportions are totally wrong. Look at those fugly taillights. Can you say, "Pontiac G6?" Well, the Z was around before the G6, but still....What an ugly car.....
Sep 30, 2006, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NoTec
Ha. The Z drivers are porbably saying the same thing about Evos and STis with their big wings, vortex gen. and roof vain spoiler, and the alteeza looking tailights. To each his own i guess.
More or less, they're probably saying, "I should've bought a car worth the money."
Sep 30, 2006, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Stock
Pick up the latest issue of Car and Driver. A track model 350Z actually beats an MR around VIR by a few tenths. They were apparently able to get on the gas a bit earlier in the Z thanks to the n/a powerplant. ??? Amazing. I'm thinking they didn't know how to drive the Evo. And it isn't that hard! Having driven 350Z's, I think they're pretty much crap compared to an Evo. Big, imprecise, vague, heavy, etc...
that doesnt make any sense to me??? ive driven one (03) and thoroughly NOT impressed....Z front end with G35 rear would look hot though!
Sep 30, 2006, 07:17 PM
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The 350Z track is a car that can handle, but it feels like a pig doing so. I passed on the Z because it felt like I was driving a pick up truck compared to the Evo.
Sep 30, 2006, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sinister Subaru
Dude, nobody else cares what C&D says either. They're a bunch of old crusty bastards that hold nothing but opinions. It isn't like they can drive. The same goes for those monkies over at R&T. In 1995 they couldn't drive a Camaro Z28 to a 1/4 time faster than 14.9 @ 93 mph. They couldn't drive a supercharged Camaro Z28 to faster than 13.5 at something like 105 mph.
C&D will give the victory to whichever company sends them the largest donation. Why is it that BMW never loses a "comparo?" It surely isn't because they're the best car.
Automotive magazines' greatest use is for toilet paper. It's bathroom reading.
C&D will give the victory to whichever company sends them the largest donation. Why is it that BMW never loses a "comparo?" It surely isn't because they're the best car.
Automotive magazines' greatest use is for toilet paper. It's bathroom reading.
and as always,"if you beat an evo, you know you have done somthing"
Sep 30, 2006, 07:49 PM
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I read the whole article twice and I thought the craziest thing was how the Elise was in the top 6 everytime!! I also thought that it was funny how the boat GT500 was spanking the EVO too....funny funny funny.
Stock EVO's aren't anything unreal add a 100whp and let's do this test again IMO.
Stock EVO's aren't anything unreal add a 100whp and let's do this test again IMO.
Sep 30, 2006, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOVIII200
that is a good point a lot of those guys are washed up retires, that dont know jack, the evo has been proven, and there is no way on earth i would believe what i see in either of those mags, if that was the case. everything on the road can take an evo. has anybody noticed that they had to pick an evo so they could look like they beat a real car, these guys knew to pic a worthy opponent
and as always,"if you beat an evo, you know you have done somthing"
and as always,"if you beat an evo, you know you have done somthing"
Yet, when they previously did a road test, they did nothing but praise it for its excellent performance.
Sep 30, 2006, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jasil
I read the whole article twice and I thought the craziest thing was how the Elise was in the top 6 everytime!! I also thought that it was funny how the boat GT500 was spanking the EVO too....funny funny funny.
Stock EVO's aren't anything unreal add a 100whp and let's do this test again IMO.
Stock EVO's aren't anything unreal add a 100whp and let's do this test again IMO.
Sep 30, 2006, 08:56 PM
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I know that a T2 spec (basially show room stock) Evo can beat 350Zs at VIR, I even have pics to prove it 
and both 350Zs were driven by excellet drivers, one a former national champ and speed world challenge pro.
Marty
go to link, scroll down to VIR
http://gmperformancedivision.com/rac...SCCA_Club.aspx
and both 350Zs were driven by excellet drivers, one a former national champ and speed world challenge pro.Marty
go to link, scroll down to VIR
http://gmperformancedivision.com/rac...SCCA_Club.aspx