GT35REVO8

iTrader: (2)

Im looking into building a 1996-2000 honda civic hatchback(EK)

what are the pros/cons of this build?
do they lose power up top?
hows the lag?

if i do a ek build im looking into a b18c1 motor with GSR tranny and either the b18 head or b16.going fully built,cams,valves,retainers,sleeves,intake mani,turbo etc..

my goal is to build a 10sec street hatch.and 400-600hp.

what motor would you go with?tranny?etc

now the only downfall to this is id have to sell the evo(mods in signature) and pay it off get another loan and build the EK...it seems like i could build the EK for way cheaper.

if you could let me know pros and cons to this id really appreciate this..thanks in advance

bboypuertoroc

iTrader: (17)

Didn't know you were that serious about it.

Pro- light weight
Con- wrong wheel drive, complete lack of torque

No, they don't lose power up top. They make their power up top.

Lag's gonna be worse since you'll be working with even less displacement than with the Evo.

sinajoon5

iTrader: (13)

are you selling any of your parts??? if so i am very interested in a lot of the parts you have and can trade you my stock evo IX parts in emaculate condition/very low miles plus ill give you cash. lemme know

thanks.

oh and goodluck on the hatch build. i too have always wanted to build one up

bboypuertoroc

iTrader: (17)

You should paint it flat black..

GT35REVO8

iTrader: (2)

haha...lol...oh man that was good...

nah im gonna look for black,blue,white...or maybe do a gold paint job again since the motor would be out and back stripped etc..

GT35REVO8

iTrader: (2)

ill get back to you on that.IF i do this i will sell the car the way it is(will sell quicker) also have to see what i owe etc...

i will let you know

Chris@nolimitmotors

iTrader: (277)

I would build a 92-95 if i were you. They are lighter and a stonger platform. Ive seen ek's (96-00) civics get the mounts ripped right off the frame rails a few times on high horsepowered ones, or atleast reinforce all the mounts if you want to do a 96-00.

JrCRXHF

my honda does not have that much power but i will try and help.

lag is not bad when you have sucky fwd because what are you going to do with TQ down low.... just spin tires my turbo does not come in with full boost tell 4700 rpm but Vtec does not hit tell 5200 and i rev the stock motor to 9000 so as long as when u shift you are still in boost and vtec then u will be fine if it is only going to be a drag car.

Off boost is not bad if u have high enough compression. some people are getting 400+whp from the stock b18 (GSR) motor i don't know how long it will last but they do it. (i make 220whp on a mustang dyno on pump gas from a B16 and my CRX weights 1770lbs and from a roll will kill my evo but the evo is pretty stock but a little hp goes along ways.

make sure you setup the front end with drag bars and good shocks and u are going to need some slicks

Get a good DIFF and driveline in the car.

They are fun on the highway but smoken both tires at 60+mph really gets old.


that is about it.

oh yeah make sure u get hondata for management and if you are a real baller you can run a k20 swap.

thaigleshmk

I've always wanted to get one of the hatches to build it up but man...

I don't want my car getting stripped out every other night.

So . F honda' theif

cij911

iTrader: (14)

Skunk2 FTW !

whitersevo

iTrader: (15)

ek honda is heavy,, you be better off with an eg.. 93-95 civic hatch. as for your engine I would go with a k series motor 2.4 liter way more torque and power.. b series motors are torqueless wonders.

4cefed

iTrader: (9)

well I built a 1996 the same way you are looking at building and i did break mounts I had hasport mounts and a full race kit made 420 to the wheel and it sucked to drive when I was done, all of your races should be done at a 45mph roll and you will still spin um alot, if you drive normally its ok but then what is the point of a getting a turbo. you should just put a K24 in it a have more streetable power, then move to a turbo if you feel the need for more.

whitersevo

iTrader: (15)

eg + Crv K24 + type S head + jackson racing supercharger = 12.4 @ 106

purposebuiltevo

Yo I own an eg hatch which is the lightest honda offerd at under 1800 lbs. I put a b18c in along with the hydro tranny from the integra. I love it and would never sell it. The pros in my oppinion outweigh the perks. Let me 1st say that it will become a true frankenstein car. No more fit and finish you'll be used to. Crap things like no room crappy dated dash and interior. My biggest problem with it is traction. I have 18s on it and have around 425 horse with a t4 turbo and nitrous. You will not be ever on the gas when you go through a corner due to the wheel spin your car will always keep going straght. Dont forget the weight difference over the front wheels doesnt help either. I have tein coilovers and with the added weight the car takes a beating on the motor mounts when the road gets ****ty. However IT WILL BE WICKED FAST. Just the swap alone with nitrous I think is faster then the evo on the freeway. Vtech + Turbo = death machine. In short too fast even with the proper mods for the original 95 hp car to handle. Good luck

JrCRXHF

I found this on honda-tech i think they all have dyno graphs to get on the list

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1478127

so you can see hp and tq for these stock motors i think it is pretty good but i don't know how long they would last like this.






By "Stock Block" I mean: Stock block, rods, pistons...ect. Stock below the headgasket

Because there seem to be a lot of high HP stock block setups coming about, I thought it might be kinda interesting to see whos at the top of the list.

Post your #s, setup, and how long the setup has lasted. Dynos above 3Kft post your uncorrected #s just to keep this somewhat fair, and to appease Tony...hehe .

EDIT: to keep the lists informative, and relatively simple I am limiting them to the top 10. If trap speeds are given, I'll try to keep you up on the list, because the HP figure + trap speed is more important than just a dyno.

EDIT: (3/12/07) For the lists that are full, I am no longer updating the list.

TIA
Bryson


B series:

B18C, LS/VTEC:
1. crx=si 605hp, 364tq stock B18C1 TO4R at 26psi Crome-pro with traktek 110
2. stOOpid tuned 523whp on 22psi and a 50 on C16. All stock B18C1 (11.00 @ 133)
3. C squared motorsports 518whp 324tq 20lbs on C16 and PT67
4. fuccarlos 508whp 361tq @17psi on c-16 (10.40@136 1.5 60')
5. marco B18C1/B16 head 480whp @ 23/24 psi on C16 tuned by jason hunt
6. GodFather of Boost 470 on c16 @20-21
7. ngogsr 462.52 fwhp 320.87 tq 23psi c 16
8. cyph3r 454whp 317tq sc61
9. a1320addict 450whp/325wtq @ 18 psi on C16. (10.92 @ 133 on 23" slicks)
10. carchitect 424whp 271tq Stock B18C5. Precision SC63
11. philipwight 400whp 260tq on stock gsr on pump gas (11.3@131)


B16:
1. Randys 630whp and 390tq on 118. (10.97@131)
2. C squared motorsports 511whp GSR head/GSR tranny....(10.84@134)
3. redline130 393 whp 261 ftlbs, C16 (11.65 @ 125mph)
4. marques4130 350 whp sunoco 112 best (11.8 @ 119 @ 4200 ft)
5. 98gsrTEG 344whp@1 bar on pump gas
6. Black SI 344whp on a stock b16 @14psi
7. 99B16Si 333whp/221wtq SAE at 13psi SC61
8. integlspwr2k 330whp on a stock head stock block
9. Bryson 329whp 210tq 13psi SC61 on 91
10. G"UNIT 329whp 207tq @12psi on a sc61 on 93 octane


LS:
1. Super-hatch 509 whp 350tq at 21 psi on c16 tuned by JASON hunt
2. Rico 340whp 270tq 1.7 bar on a stock LS
3. JDMH22HATCH 340/270 15lbs stock LS
4. adseguy 328whp 269trq 16PSI on 93 octane .63/.60 57 trim (retired, yet still in good shape).
5. Mtber 326hp, 270tq 57trim 16-18psi
6. Jeff Evans tuned 320whp/290tq
7. M.A.R.C 315whp/280wtq @ 15psi on 93oct
8. efgarage 308whp 287wtq 15psi 91 oct,tuned with neptune
9. gpomp 308 whp, 255 wtq 94 octane
10. ramrod 307 whp, 247tq Crome pro


F20C
1. TURBO-TEG 690 hp stock s2000 motor with 30 psi on a T-76 Update 4/21/06 (cracked sleeve)
2. JG-fabrications 619 whp 414 wtq (c16)
3. Tinker219 469whp 301tq 16psi GT4088R
4. Sideways 450rwhp 260ftlbs @ 13 lbs boost
5. Jeff Evans tuned 448whp/273tq stage 3 gt FR kit, 15psi,
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F22:
1. twkdCD595 f22b1 335 whp 279 ft. lbs
2. bigdaddyvtec F22b1 10 PSI- 305 WHP and 307 tq.
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K series:
1. Sir2egk 646.90whp / 522.40tq @ 7600rpm GT35R K24 block/stock K20A2 head (11.2 @ 125)
2. dc5_rsx 560 whp/392 Tq
3. Stoopid tuned 515whp bone stock K20A2
4. Jeff Evans tuned k24a 15psi-440whp/300tq
5. DDD 409.38whp 294.76 tq @ 11-12psi 94
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H series:
1. This One (Stoopid tuned) 536whp bone stock H22A
2. This One 442whp bone stock H22A
3. Tyler H H22A- 411.3 hp, 330.2 ft-lb (11.076 @ 126.57 mph)
4. trickeng 404wHP completely stock internal H22A
5. 404wHPunder_OATH 363 whp 278 wtq
6. Garrett 361 whp, 299 lbs@11psi
7. SpeedingHatch 354whp 303ft/lbs Lasted 2.5 months ( )
8. x-1 H22 Mased at 344whp
9. C61lude's made 328.2hp on 10psi, onefab mani sc61
10. FastludeH22 302whp @ 8psi

D series:
1. nerdsports Y7block/Z6head 375whp/255tq
2. Jeff Evans tuned D16z6, 308whp/262tq, neptune, GT28RS
3.BoostedED9 D16Z6 302whp 251wtq
4. LurkerS8 300whp 237tq
5. King-Kong D16z6 @ 264p/240ft.tq @ 13 psi sc50
6. ladysman 262whp on 12.5 psi stock Z6
7. wilham320 d16y8 w/ greddy kit at 15psi - 252whp pump gas
8. turbozxi 250whp 250 TQ stock zc sohc IHIvf22 with around 15psi
9. Blind Fashion 236whp 189tq stock Z6 243000 miles!
10. TheShocker d16a6 231 WHP 206 TRQ t3/t4 60 trim .63 a/r 9 psi


Modified by Boostwerks.com at 12:24 PM 3/15/2007

Modified by Boostwerks.com at 8:29 PM 5/7/2007