Nissan's GT-R goes around TG track in 1:19.7
Jul 22, 2008, 03:07 PM
#16
1) The road was partially wet
2) The driver miserably failed to downshift after taking the second or third turn to the end consequently loosing inmense amount of time. had that driver downshifted properly and that Evo would have done 1-2 seconds faster.
Please watch the video before arguing, I am very firm on what I am saying, that FQ 400 was almost driven well but it lacked in a couple of spots. In the video you can hear Jeremy saying: uhhhhh.. he is off the boost!!!!
Botton line, the FQ400 wasn't driven properly, it was an operator error, the driver applied his inexperience technique to erroneously drive the car at low speed in the wrong gear.. to make matters worst the car is fitted with a larger turbo thus the final lap times reflects.
Carlos
Last edited by fromWRXtoEVO; Jul 23, 2008 at 08:46 PM.
Jul 22, 2008, 05:02 PM
#19
^^ I concur.. I noticed that the very last final turn/curve is so badly engineered that half of the cars physically run in to the grass and drive over a jump getting almost all 4 in the air. For those still trying to figure out what I am saying just watch just about any video and you know what I mean.
Also in other turns within the track the cars run out of room as well. Definately not a good "all around" track to set as a reference, let alone the diversity of climate condition in which the cars are exposed(sometime wet roads, sometimes sunny, sometimes cloudy...).
Carlos
Also in other turns within the track the cars run out of room as well. Definately not a good "all around" track to set as a reference, let alone the diversity of climate condition in which the cars are exposed(sometime wet roads, sometimes sunny, sometimes cloudy...).
Carlos
Jul 23, 2008, 08:27 AM
#20
I agree that the track is not a great track to show what a car can do but on something more suitable every car would just record better lap times and the supercars would pull even further out in front.
The Stig gets a long time with each car to learn the limits and being an ex F1 driver I'd say it wouldn't take him longer than a session or two to go for the fastest lap. It's not first try and that's it.
Carlos I haven't seen the video but I wouldn't argue with you anyways I'm sure the FQ-400 could have gone faster. The driver usually remains consistent, the weather can't but what do you want them to do about that? Test 5 cars a year or have a second or two difference in results? They mark down when cars go round and the track is wet and they didn't say the FQ-400 track was wet. Why would they do that?
The Stig gets a long time with each car to learn the limits and being an ex F1 driver I'd say it wouldn't take him longer than a session or two to go for the fastest lap. It's not first try and that's it.
Carlos I haven't seen the video but I wouldn't argue with you anyways I'm sure the FQ-400 could have gone faster. The driver usually remains consistent, the weather can't but what do you want them to do about that? Test 5 cars a year or have a second or two difference in results? They mark down when cars go round and the track is wet and they didn't say the FQ-400 track was wet. Why would they do that?
Jul 23, 2008, 08:27 PM
#23
Jordans4, I was refering as a road with a lot of moist in some spots..it clearly looks like the surface wasn't dry all the way because you can see some old water remain in some places.
Carlos
Carlos
Last edited by fromWRXtoEVO; Jul 23, 2008 at 08:31 PM.
Jul 24, 2008, 07:56 PM
#27
Don't get me wrong, the Z06 will dominate the GTR on highway pulls and drag runs past 1/4 mile. But when you say power tracks, you must be speaking of oval tracks, because the 'Ring has just as many long straights and long sweeping curves as a Z06 owner could want. I'm sure you have seen it, but here is the link to the video of the GTR on the 'Ring.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGe_fyhQazg
Notice the map in the lower right corner. Look at all those long straight runs in between the tight curves. And for those who have played any video games, you should know how many chances to bury the throttle you get on the Nordschliffe. The Z06 does not have enough power to make up for the loss of time in the corners. The ZR1, on the other hand, is a much different story. It pulls away in the straights and loses no time in the corners. The Z06 does not seem to be a match for the GTR on a non-oval track. The ZR1 seems like it handles the GTR quite soundly on the track though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGe_fyhQazg
Notice the map in the lower right corner. Look at all those long straight runs in between the tight curves. And for those who have played any video games, you should know how many chances to bury the throttle you get on the Nordschliffe. The Z06 does not have enough power to make up for the loss of time in the corners. The ZR1, on the other hand, is a much different story. It pulls away in the straights and loses no time in the corners. The Z06 does not seem to be a match for the GTR on a non-oval track. The ZR1 seems like it handles the GTR quite soundly on the track though.
They have never ran a 100% factory GTR at the Ring. You can take atleast 10sec off it times just for slicks if not more. It would not come close to the Z06 in factory form. Put cut slicks on the Z06 and better suspension and would probably surpass the ZR1 time quite easily considering stock Z06 tires are junk.
Jul 24, 2008, 08:03 PM
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