GTR Black Box
#46
Well I hope for their sakes (people who had the money for them) you don't have to eat those words. Like was said before...its not a stretch with the capabilities of America now a days. Also like I said in my 1st post, I'm sure the cops have someone developing a program now to read that box. He's back there like this as we speak.
not practical
#47
to be completely honest if i had the money for the GTR i would think about the problem then, im sure that box costs a hell of a lot and would cause cars prices to go higher then most people would pay for them, either way there are things in place already similar to this , for instance here on Long Island in NY along our Northern State Parkway there are sings that tell you based on traffic speed how long it will take you to get from where the sign is to whichever exit is on the sign, it literally says the number in a light-up display then the printed word "minutes", people here almost didn't allow them to be voted in because people were worried that they would begin to get tickets for going over the speed limit, its similar, when it actually happens, i believe there will be a very big very public court case on invasion of privacy
heres what they look like...all based on radar detected speed from passing vehicles
heres what they look like...all based on radar detected speed from passing vehicles
Last edited by Chabada15; Sep 29, 2008 at 09:45 AM.
#49
I'm disappointed to hear some of you guys saying things like 'you're just paranoid' and 'they'll never use it in court' or 'it's not like the cop can get the data or they will use it in court'.
We really can't afford to be this short-sighted when it comes to our personal freedoms. Do you doubt that there are corrupt people at the top of the pecking order that would do anything to stay in power and couldn't care less that your data is being obtained without your explicit permission? People having voided warranties should be the least of our concerns.
There are people already actively monitoring phones illegally, searching electronic and paper documents at the border, and detaining people without proper cause.
This is just another example, however small, of people forfeiting their rights by taking the candy. You want a nice, new, fast car? Well, it will probably end up costing you more than you'd like.
The water utility company can already read your in-home water meter from the street--without stopping the truck. Your position can be located by your phone signal if it's equipped with GPS. You think it's going to be very long before a cop can remotely scan all the car in the intersection or parking lot, determine which one has broken a law, and then give them a ticket? Technology, FTW.
I hear people talk about Big Brother a lot, but how many of you have read 1984? Do yourself a favor and go pick up a copy, give it a read, and tell me if you think there are many differences between what goes in every single day right now.
I also heard a guy mention moving to London. Well, I live in London right now and I can tell you that privacy invasion is a global problem. Europe is much more advanced than the US, because people here actually care about their rights and are less willing to roll-over for the false promise of things like 'national security', but it's by no means a utopia of freedom and inviolate rights.
We really can't afford to be this short-sighted when it comes to our personal freedoms. Do you doubt that there are corrupt people at the top of the pecking order that would do anything to stay in power and couldn't care less that your data is being obtained without your explicit permission? People having voided warranties should be the least of our concerns.
There are people already actively monitoring phones illegally, searching electronic and paper documents at the border, and detaining people without proper cause.
This is just another example, however small, of people forfeiting their rights by taking the candy. You want a nice, new, fast car? Well, it will probably end up costing you more than you'd like.
The water utility company can already read your in-home water meter from the street--without stopping the truck. Your position can be located by your phone signal if it's equipped with GPS. You think it's going to be very long before a cop can remotely scan all the car in the intersection or parking lot, determine which one has broken a law, and then give them a ticket? Technology, FTW.
I hear people talk about Big Brother a lot, but how many of you have read 1984? Do yourself a favor and go pick up a copy, give it a read, and tell me if you think there are many differences between what goes in every single day right now.
I also heard a guy mention moving to London. Well, I live in London right now and I can tell you that privacy invasion is a global problem. Europe is much more advanced than the US, because people here actually care about their rights and are less willing to roll-over for the false promise of things like 'national security', but it's by no means a utopia of freedom and inviolate rights.
#50
What gets me apprehensive is that cops her in california are already increasing their awareness and response to modified cars on the street. Right now, we still have the upper hand because most cops don't know anything about modding cars...they just know what to look for, but we can still get around most situations due to our knowledge. This black box would give cops the advantage. They wouldn't even need to know anything about the cars...they just plug in, and all the information is handed to them.
#51
i agree with "144mph" , its forfeiting a right, if we all serious look at the first 10 amendments to our (the U.S.A.) constitution and then look at the day to day now, you tell me if our founding fathers would even be living here today, problem here is theres no "new world" to run away too, we gotta deal with what we got, if anyone really wants to see sum scary sh** go watch this movie, that includes those in the US, UK, hell the world
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/