Porsche 996 GT3 RS vs, Nissan GT-R on Nordschleife
Oct 27, 2008 | 04:53 PM
#32
another thought - if you want a car that is a technical challenge, get an AP1 S2000. you'll be passed by the halfwit in the stock evo, but take pride in having a RWD car and enjoy doing silly things. if you want a car that an average guy can drive and break GT3s and Turbo 911s in half - the GTR has already done it. just depends on what you find satisfying.
on forums, people can go in circles about enthusiast theory forever. but blowing by a "purist" at corner entry, under steady state cornering, at corner exit, and down a long straight kinda puts all that high brow, looking down at the poor people that can't afford real cars enthusiast theory in perspective.
Last edited by CleverUserName; Oct 27, 2008 at 04:56 PM.
Oct 27, 2008 | 04:56 PM
#33
honestly, i love all cars. but the GTR just has so much more presence than the porsches. same thing with the ZO6, as both are physically large and have such visual impact. when you combine that there are less expensive GTs that are much more impressive in a physical stature and a performance perspective, it's easy to understand why there are a lot of enthusiasts that aren't very enthused about any of the porsches at the same price point.
plus, when you are a gameless wonder like me, even rolling up in an F430 won't help.
plus, when you are a gameless wonder like me, even rolling up in an F430 won't help.
even if it's a nissan and not a porsche. I freaking love Porsches but here in Dallas they are nearly a dime a dozen with the exception of the Carrera GT (drool). Man I love that car!!
Oct 27, 2008 | 06:12 PM
#34
Let’s look at the facts: (all prices are MSRP)
Porsche Turbo: 129K
Porsche GT3 RS: 125K
Viper ACR: 100K
GTR: 77K
Z06: 73K
The Viper, GTR, and Z06 all outperform the top end Porsches in one arena or another. Some even outperforms the Porsches in everything.
So what does this prove? That Porsches are overpriced for their performance level.
Overrated and underperforming is directly related to price of the vehicle. Considering that the GTR is 50k less than the Porsche Turbo and is better a handling machine, the Porsche Turbo falls easily into the overrated and underperforming catalogue. In addition, it’s well known that the Porsche Turbo under steers badly going into the turns and over steers coming out of it. As well as having mid-corning stability issues. For 50K more than the GTR, and 29K more than the Viper ACR, the Porsche has no excuses why it doesn’t meet up.
Let’s look at just the video. The GTR clearly pulls away from the Porsche GT3 RS, and again the Porsche cost 48K more. If it wasn’t for the traffic slowing the GTR down, the video of the GT3 RS filming the GTR from behind would have been much shorter.
In conclusion, yes the Porsche is overpriced for its performance level, yes for the cost it’s over rated, and yes it under performs cars that cost 50k or less.
Porsche Turbo: 129K
Porsche GT3 RS: 125K
Viper ACR: 100K
GTR: 77K
Z06: 73K
The Viper, GTR, and Z06 all outperform the top end Porsches in one arena or another. Some even outperforms the Porsches in everything.
So what does this prove? That Porsches are overpriced for their performance level.
Overrated and underperforming is directly related to price of the vehicle. Considering that the GTR is 50k less than the Porsche Turbo and is better a handling machine, the Porsche Turbo falls easily into the overrated and underperforming catalogue. In addition, it’s well known that the Porsche Turbo under steers badly going into the turns and over steers coming out of it. As well as having mid-corning stability issues. For 50K more than the GTR, and 29K more than the Viper ACR, the Porsche has no excuses why it doesn’t meet up.
Let’s look at just the video. The GTR clearly pulls away from the Porsche GT3 RS, and again the Porsche cost 48K more. If it wasn’t for the traffic slowing the GTR down, the video of the GT3 RS filming the GTR from behind would have been much shorter.
In conclusion, yes the Porsche is overpriced for its performance level, yes for the cost it’s over rated, and yes it under performs cars that cost 50k or less.
Oct 27, 2008 | 07:41 PM
#37
Let’s look at the facts: (all prices are MSRP)
Porsche Turbo: 129K
Porsche GT3 RS: 125K
Viper ACR: 100K
GTR: 77K
Z06: 73K
The Viper, GTR, and Z06 all outperform the top end Porsches in one arena or another. Some even outperforms the Porsches in everything.
So what does this prove? That Porsches are overpriced for their performance level.
Overrated and underperforming is directly related to price of the vehicle. Considering that the GTR is 50k less than the Porsche Turbo and is better a handling machine, the Porsche Turbo falls easily into the overrated and underperforming catalogue. In addition, it’s well known that the Porsche Turbo under steers badly going into the turns and over steers coming out of it. As well as having mid-corning stability issues. For 50K more than the GTR, and 29K more than the Viper ACR, the Porsche has no excuses why it doesn’t meet up.
Let’s look at just the video. The GTR clearly pulls away from the Porsche GT3 RS, and again the Porsche cost 48K more. If it wasn’t for the traffic slowing the GTR down, the video of the GT3 RS filming the GTR from behind would have been much shorter.
In conclusion, yes the Porsche is overpriced for its performance level, yes for the cost it’s over rated, and yes it under performs cars that cost 50k or less.
Porsche Turbo: 129K
Porsche GT3 RS: 125K
Viper ACR: 100K
GTR: 77K
Z06: 73K
The Viper, GTR, and Z06 all outperform the top end Porsches in one arena or another. Some even outperforms the Porsches in everything.
So what does this prove? That Porsches are overpriced for their performance level.
Overrated and underperforming is directly related to price of the vehicle. Considering that the GTR is 50k less than the Porsche Turbo and is better a handling machine, the Porsche Turbo falls easily into the overrated and underperforming catalogue. In addition, it’s well known that the Porsche Turbo under steers badly going into the turns and over steers coming out of it. As well as having mid-corning stability issues. For 50K more than the GTR, and 29K more than the Viper ACR, the Porsche has no excuses why it doesn’t meet up.
Let’s look at just the video. The GTR clearly pulls away from the Porsche GT3 RS, and again the Porsche cost 48K more. If it wasn’t for the traffic slowing the GTR down, the video of the GT3 RS filming the GTR from behind would have been much shorter.
In conclusion, yes the Porsche is overpriced for its performance level, yes for the cost it’s over rated, and yes it under performs cars that cost 50k or less.
Oct 27, 2008 | 08:09 PM
#38
Actually you're the first to bring light to these "issues" lol. You never even explained you're last "handles like a POS" comment. Care to explain this one, since you're obviously some sort of LeMans driver. Also, everyone knows the Nissan IS faster in a straight line by a BIG margin than the GT3rs, and slightly then the turbo.
Oct 27, 2008 | 08:14 PM
#39
Now are you going to back yourself up on that "POS handling" theory or are we supposed to listen to the feces coming out your mouth. Oh that's right, thank you. Another post with nothing relevant in it. If you want I can pull up probably hundreds of articles/reviews/history of praise (just google as a matter of fact, countless awards as well), now are you gonna back yourself up or what?
Oct 27, 2008 | 08:15 PM
#40
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Oct 27, 2008 | 08:21 PM
#43
Oct 27, 2008 | 08:29 PM
#45
Yet another pointless post with no backup. Boo for you 
. Here's a start. I got plenty more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_911_Turbo
. Here's a start. I got plenty more.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_911_Turbo