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Old Mar 2, 2009, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by heavyD
Every publication has stated it's direct injection so far;

http://paultan.org/archives/2008/11/...-turbo-engine/
That particular engine is just a prototype for now. It produces 286hp, where as the engine in the Genesis coupe produces 210hp.
Old Mar 2, 2009, 10:09 PM
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Open deck... Ouch. Weaker internals, 2 bolt main bearing caps instead of 4 like the evo, the list goes on and on. Hell, the detuned and smaller cammed ralliart engine is closer to the 4b11 in the evo than the theta 4 is. Hey, I'm all for development on this new genesis coupe, but I don't know if it's really going to benefit the X because aside from having more piston upgrades, there really isn't very much that will transfer from one to the other. We'll see I suppose...
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Swaps - wonder how many would just swap the necessary parts to be an EVO engine or at least near it?

Would swaps even be possible?
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Originally Posted by ConceptVBS
That particular engine is just a prototype for now. It produces 286hp, where as the engine in the Genesis coupe produces 210hp.
I think you are right. The direct injection was thrown out by Edmunds as well but it appears that early models will just be regular efi.
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I bet the thing will still probably 350rwhp pretty easily. I'd love to see what kind of turbos will fit.
Old Mar 3, 2009, 12:02 PM
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Hopefully, the genesis will create some more modding options for the 4b11T.
Old Mar 3, 2009, 12:55 PM
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Genesis = $22k+ turbo 2.0 210hp
EvolutionX = $33k+ turbo 2.0 291hp

Im pretty sure that $10k+ you just saved will knock you over evo x power and beyond. But you could also spend that Genesis amont and get a cobalt ss turbo with 260hp. Genesis just looks much better.
Old Mar 3, 2009, 02:32 PM
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The V6 and the 2.0T are tuned to run on regular 87 octane... I can imagine a 91/93 octane tune will provide some good numbers in itself.
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Originally Posted by ZK
The V6 and the 2.0T are tuned to run on regular 87 octane... I can imagine a 91/93 octane tune will provide some good numbers in itself.
hyundai seems to be doing that to all their cars now. The v8 sedan can even run on 87 octane no problems, but claimed output will drop to 365 from 375 lol.

I was also thinking the evo block swap theory, would it work in theory to just swap bottom ends.

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Originally Posted by ZWingerRyRy
Genesis = $22k+ turbo 2.0 210hp
EvolutionX = $33k+ turbo 2.0 291hp

Im pretty sure that $10k+ you just saved will knock you over evo x power and beyond. But you could also spend that Genesis amont and get a cobalt ss turbo with 260hp. Genesis just looks much better.
Don't do that.


Compare apples to oranges.
Old Mar 3, 2009, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by boostedawd
Don't do that.


Compare apples to oranges.
Werd. Even with that engine, Hyundai will still be in the shadows and never in the same class as the evo. At the end of the day, it's still a Hyundai.
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Ugh, threads like this give me a headache. The genesis is a neat car, but will NEVER be an evo competitor. The 300 hp NA 6 might give an evo a run for it's money on the track, but won't have squat for power potential compared to the evo unless you want to spend 8k on a turbo conversion kit, and even then it's still an open deck block. It's the 350 z all over again, but with an even weaker engine. As for the 2 liter cousing to the 4b11, it shares the basic block design but that's it. It's NOT cast the same, and is EXTREMELY different.

OPEN deck, not SEMI CLOSED like the 4b11 in the X, 2 bolt main bearing caps instead of 4 like the evo, weaker internals, different head that I can guarantee isn't as good as the evo's, the list goes on and on. This all adds up to an engine that won't make as much power as the one in the evo, and an engine that will pop at much lower power levels as well. The only redeeming qualities are that it's lighter and, disgracefully, has a far nicer interior. It is a cool car, but more of a ralliart competitor than anything.

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Originally Posted by ZWingerRyRy
Genesis = $22k+ turbo 2.0 210hp
EvolutionX = $33k+ turbo 2.0 291hp

Im pretty sure that $10k+ you just saved will knock you over evo x power and beyond. But you could also spend that Genesis amont and get a cobalt ss turbo with 260hp. Genesis just looks much better.
I'm not even going to bother responding to this. Read the post right above this one and then rethink your stance.

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Old Mar 3, 2009, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by STi2EvoX
Ugh, threads like this give me a headache. The genesis is a neat car, but will NEVER be an evo competitor. The 300 hp NA 6 might give an evo a run for it's money on the track, but won't have squat for power potential compared to the evo unless you want to spend 8k on a turbo conversion kit, and even then it's still an open deck block. It's the 350 z all over again, but with an even weaker engine. As for the 2 liter cousing to the 4b11, it shares the basic block design but that's it. It's NOT cast the same, and is EXTREMELY different.

OPEN deck, not SEMI CLOSED like the 4b11 in the X, 2 bolt main bearing caps instead of 4 like the evo, weaker internals, different head that I can guarantee isn't as good as the evo's, the list goes on and on. This all adds up to an engine that won't make as much power as the one in the evo, and an engine that will pop at much lower power levels as well. The only redeeming qualities are that it's lighter and, disgracefully, has a far nicer interior. It is a cool car, but more of a ralliart competitor than anything.
I did notice the two-bolt mains.

Cool car, but not enough to want me to drop the evo from the roster. It is also the base model...The best way to buy would be the 3.8l v6. I wonder if any of the rental companies will have these in their fleets?
Old Mar 3, 2009, 06:08 PM
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Two bolt main bearing caps is weaker for sure, but the open deck is the biggest killer to me. That's weak sauce, and has no place in a turbo application IMO.


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