Twin Scroll Sceptics BMW X5 M owns you....
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1.5 bar to get 550bhp from a 4.4 ltr v8 with 4 values per cylinder??? Sounds a bit low to me.... Also i heard the 335 engines where actually pretty weak internally. Also the direct injection will pose tuning problems once you start pushing the engine harder. Still be nice to see what this engine could do with some forged internals, proper manifolds, twin gt30rs turbos and a 8,000 rpm rev limit! :-)
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1.5 bar to get 550bhp from a 4.4 ltr v8 with 4 values per cylinder??? Sounds a bit low to me.... Also i heard the 335 engines where actually pretty weak internally. Also the direct injection will pose tuning problems once you start pushing the engine harder. Still be nice to see what this engine could do with some forged internals, proper manifolds, twin gt30rs turbos and a 8,000 rpm rev limit! :-)
Evan Smith
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Short Stroke will do it every time. 6.2 V12 Lambo motors have what 375Torque?
1.5 bar to get 550bhp from a 4.4 ltr v8 with 4 values per cylinder??? Sounds a bit low to me.... Also i heard the 335 engines where actually pretty weak internally. Also the direct injection will pose tuning problems once you start pushing the engine harder. Still be nice to see what this engine could do with some forged internals, proper manifolds, twin gt30rs turbos and a 8,000 rpm rev limit! :-)
You don't understand the area under the curve, it probably has an extremely fat power band and a FLAT torque curve. Also think of reliability you aren't even taxing a system at the level as well, just ease of use.
#26
My point was that its VERY high boost, in modern terms, to be making such a lowly power figure. Most Direct injection turbo engines these days run pretty low boost presures as this enables you to run MUCH more comp. ration and thus increase the area unde the curve and throttle response.
I have no doubt that BMW know what they are doing, but wht the high intake presures?????
Chris.
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Chris.
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Evan i agree there are some biriliant advantages to DI and in theory it should let you make more power. the problem hoever will be the injectors and the tuning itself! i have yet to hear of any standalone ECU that will run DI setups. Most choose to remove DI injectors and run the engine with conventioal injection systems.
Regards,
Chris.
Regards,
Chris.
Mynes Performance has now ECUFLASH style software for the MINI COOPER which is DI. DI is like turbo charging at first it will take a while but I imagine by 2015 a majority of every car manufacture will be using Turbo and DI. Its the ultimate for fuel economy, Sorry E85 crew. Next step will be implementing bigger injectors.
BTW OP AFI TS FTMW!!!! - I love acronyms!
Evan Smith
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Don't have to tell me twice, I loves me my AFI ts 35R kit
..... and Evan I totally agree. Direct injection will be like the transition from carbs to fuel injection all over again. Yes controlling these new injectors and waiting for these aftermarket highpressure pump solutions will take time, but its inevitable that the majority of cars, and specifically turbocharged ones will be Direct Injection for the foreseeable future.
Scorke