New Solstice Coupe
Jun 19, 2009, 07:57 AM
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Jun 19, 2009, 10:58 PM
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This is why. 600 pounds compared to a Miata is a LOT. Power is easy to come by, as is suspension tuning and traction. Stripping 600 pounds out of a street car is a PITA. Weight is the enemy, and Pontiac have turned to the dark side with the Solstice.
To be fair: try bringing up a thread about a subaru here and see the response. I can assure you you'd still see quite a bit of ignorant brand hatred simply from the competitive bias. The advantage that the miata community shares is that there are plenty of older, more mature users on the more popular forums compared to most other enthusiast brands. Lots of young kids are scared of being associated as being "gay" for driving one.
Jun 20, 2009, 11:26 AM
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Base Curb Weight: 3018 (for the GXP at least, 50 less for the non GXP)
This is why. 600 pounds compared to a Miata is a LOT. Power is easy to come by, as is suspension tuning and traction. Stripping 600 pounds out of a street car is a PITA. Weight is the enemy, and Pontiac have turned to the dark side with the Solstice.
This is true as well, though there are many who are miata drivers because it's simply the best roadster produced regardless of manufacturer.
To be fair: try bringing up a thread about a subaru here and see the response. I can assure you you'd still see quite a bit of ignorant brand hatred simply from the competitive bias. The advantage that the miata community shares is that there are plenty of older, more mature users on the more popular forums compared to most other enthusiast brands. Lots of young kids are scared of being associated as being "gay" for driving one.
This is why. 600 pounds compared to a Miata is a LOT. Power is easy to come by, as is suspension tuning and traction. Stripping 600 pounds out of a street car is a PITA. Weight is the enemy, and Pontiac have turned to the dark side with the Solstice.
This is true as well, though there are many who are miata drivers because it's simply the best roadster produced regardless of manufacturer.
To be fair: try bringing up a thread about a subaru here and see the response. I can assure you you'd still see quite a bit of ignorant brand hatred simply from the competitive bias. The advantage that the miata community shares is that there are plenty of older, more mature users on the more popular forums compared to most other enthusiast brands. Lots of young kids are scared of being associated as being "gay" for driving one.
Jun 21, 2009, 06:10 PM
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To be fair: try bringing up a thread about a subaru here and see the response. I can assure you you'd still see quite a bit of ignorant brand hatred simply from the competitive bias. The advantage that the miata community shares is that there are plenty of older, more mature users on the more popular forums compared to most other enthusiast brands. Lots of young kids are scared of being associated as being "gay" for driving one.
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Jun 22, 2009, 07:14 AM
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These cars arent that bad from real world experience the only problem with these cars is that the non-turbo need more get-go, other than that they corner pretty bad-***.
Jun 22, 2009, 10:14 AM
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The Coupe doesnt look just like that , thats a "concept"
here is the real car its not as smooth
http://www.automobilemag.com/multime.../photo_06.html
here is the real car its not as smooth
http://www.automobilemag.com/multime.../photo_06.html
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I don't have the crystal ball but I have more common sense that you can ever imagine. GM filed for Bankrupcy and nothing happened. GM is called now GM reinvention and many companies and private and public investors jumped in to regain control of the finances.
While GM pays retirement plans for 400000 people Toyota only pays retirement plans for 700 people, that is a stone true statement. It is very easy to blame the brand and say that they make ****y cars but the reality is that the economy affects many other subsidiearie industries like glass, metal, rubber, leather, stereos, speakers, chemicals, petroleum,etc, etc...
Carlos
While GM pays retirement plans for 400000 people Toyota only pays retirement plans for 700 people, that is a stone true statement. It is very easy to blame the brand and say that they make ****y cars but the reality is that the economy affects many other subsidiearie industries like glass, metal, rubber, leather, stereos, speakers, chemicals, petroleum,etc, etc...
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