2g DSM 7 bolt motors: how common is crankwalk really?
Oct 22, 2010, 11:33 PM
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On a side note- The guy is giving me the option of going with the T3 setup, or a refurbished t25 turbo and retuned and lower the price a bit. He says that the stock turbo is more consistent power throughout the powerband, whereas the T3 takes quite a bit of lag and doesn't kick in until low 3k RPMs, and then hits like a jackhammer. Which turbo would you guys run on for daily driving?
Oct 23, 2010, 10:28 AM
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I would not want a T25 ever, for any DSM - DD or not. Just drive the car with the current setup and see what you think, but I doubt you will want to go back to a T too small.
Oct 26, 2010, 10:22 AM
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Here is a question for anyone who is rather familiar with the DSM market right now. What is the average going rate for a clean 2g talon or GSX?
Oct 26, 2010, 10:45 AM
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$6-7k for a clean 2G AWD but lets be honest, clean DSM's are a dime a dozen these days.
Most of em aren't worth more than $4-5k once you factor in the amount of cheap back yard ebay mods that have been hacked onto the cars. Most of the DSM's my buddies have picked up in that past few years usually require $1-2k in "fix-it" mods in order to get them working correctly
Most of em aren't worth more than $4-5k once you factor in the amount of cheap back yard ebay mods that have been hacked onto the cars. Most of the DSM's my buddies have picked up in that past few years usually require $1-2k in "fix-it" mods in order to get them working correctly
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$6-7k for a clean 2g awd but lets be honest, clean dsm's are a dime a dozen these days.
Most of em aren't worth more than $4-5k once you factor in the amount of cheap back yard ebay mods that have been hacked onto the cars. Most of the dsm's my buddies have picked up in that past few years usually require $1-2k in "fix-it" mods in order to get them working correctly
Most of em aren't worth more than $4-5k once you factor in the amount of cheap back yard ebay mods that have been hacked onto the cars. Most of the dsm's my buddies have picked up in that past few years usually require $1-2k in "fix-it" mods in order to get them working correctly
Oct 26, 2010, 05:21 PM
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I recently sold my 95 2G GSX. I made 409whp on a mustang dyno on absolutely unmolested internals, It could easily made another 60 or 70whp because I was only aroudn 70%of the boost. The car had 95000 miles and didn't show any signs of crankwalk.
People will tell you that the 2Gs are ***** to crank walk and I am saying the numbers are minimals. This issue was corrected quickly. What the people don't tell you also is how the crankwalk occurs.
Lets be honest, every 2D DSM owner abuse their car performance wise. If you drive your 2G and have no mods and don't drive to red line you could probably get a few hundreds thousands of miles before any issues but that is not the case on most of the 2G DSM owners.
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People will tell you that the 2Gs are ***** to crank walk and I am saying the numbers are minimals. This issue was corrected quickly. What the people don't tell you also is how the crankwalk occurs.
Lets be honest, every 2D DSM owner abuse their car performance wise. If you drive your 2G and have no mods and don't drive to red line you could probably get a few hundreds thousands of miles before any issues but that is not the case on most of the 2G DSM owners.
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Nov 15, 2010, 06:17 PM
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Let me tell you from my experience, yes any motor can crankwalk. But.....
I have owned two 2g dsms. Both on stock motors, and both early '95 builds.
My first one had crankwalk real bad, sounded like it had a boxer engine, my second was on the verge.
Crank end play seemed to not increase and disabling the clutch switch/not riding the clutch really decreased the wear on thrust bearing.
If you take any 2g with a 7bolt and measure the end play chances are it's pretty close to being out of spec. There have been many 2g's out there making some decent power and running well with a crankwalked motor, some ppl don't even know it. That motor will still run, unless the trigger plate is pounding on that crank sensor otherwise you won't know till you hear a ticking bomb and kaboom....
Crankwalk mostly plagued later '95 builds and '96 models was the worst year hence why their isn't that many '96's around. They say '99 was the bulletproof 7bolt in 2g's not really though it was built better plus Mitsu didn't build that many to begin with.
I'm not trying to scare you away, but don't ever buy a DSM for DD purposes most are beat to **** and you will just have issues. Otherwise good luck!
I have owned two 2g dsms. Both on stock motors, and both early '95 builds.
My first one had crankwalk real bad, sounded like it had a boxer engine, my second was on the verge.
Crank end play seemed to not increase and disabling the clutch switch/not riding the clutch really decreased the wear on thrust bearing.
If you take any 2g with a 7bolt and measure the end play chances are it's pretty close to being out of spec. There have been many 2g's out there making some decent power and running well with a crankwalked motor, some ppl don't even know it. That motor will still run, unless the trigger plate is pounding on that crank sensor otherwise you won't know till you hear a ticking bomb and kaboom....
Crankwalk mostly plagued later '95 builds and '96 models was the worst year hence why their isn't that many '96's around. They say '99 was the bulletproof 7bolt in 2g's not really though it was built better plus Mitsu didn't build that many to begin with.
I'm not trying to scare you away, but don't ever buy a DSM for DD purposes most are beat to **** and you will just have issues. Otherwise good luck!
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Let me tell you from my experience, yes any motor can crankwalk. But.....
I have owned two 2g dsms. Both on stock motors, and both early '95 builds.
My first one had crankwalk real bad, sounded like it had a boxer engine, my second was on the verge.
Crank end play seemed to not increase and disabling the clutch switch/not riding the clutch really decreased the wear on thrust bearing.
If you take any 2g with a 7bolt and measure the end play chances are it's pretty close to being out of spec. There have been many 2g's out there making some decent power and running well with a crankwalked motor, some ppl don't even know it. That motor will still run, unless the trigger plate is pounding on that crank sensor otherwise you won't know till you hear a ticking bomb and kaboom....
Crankwalk mostly plagued later '95 builds and '96 models was the worst year hence why their isn't that many '96's around. They say '99 was the bulletproof 7bolt in 2g's not really though it was built better plus Mitsu didn't build that many to begin with.
I'm not trying to scare you away, but don't ever buy a DSM for DD purposes most are beat to **** and you will just have issues. Otherwise good luck!
I have owned two 2g dsms. Both on stock motors, and both early '95 builds.
My first one had crankwalk real bad, sounded like it had a boxer engine, my second was on the verge.
Crank end play seemed to not increase and disabling the clutch switch/not riding the clutch really decreased the wear on thrust bearing.
If you take any 2g with a 7bolt and measure the end play chances are it's pretty close to being out of spec. There have been many 2g's out there making some decent power and running well with a crankwalked motor, some ppl don't even know it. That motor will still run, unless the trigger plate is pounding on that crank sensor otherwise you won't know till you hear a ticking bomb and kaboom....
Crankwalk mostly plagued later '95 builds and '96 models was the worst year hence why their isn't that many '96's around. They say '99 was the bulletproof 7bolt in 2g's not really though it was built better plus Mitsu didn't build that many to begin with.
I'm not trying to scare you away, but don't ever buy a DSM for DD purposes most are beat to **** and you will just have issues. Otherwise good luck!
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