Mk V Supra - My Evo's Replacement?
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Crzykdd (Jan 25, 2022)
Jan 25, 2022, 04:31 PM
#962
Evolving Member
You should post a photo! ;-) I hear ya on building a car and being burnt out. That was the attraction of going to the EVO from my 1G DSM way back when, as the EVO right out of the box was a much much better car!
Jan 25, 2022, 05:05 PM
#964
I was in comfort mode, so the car was probably more compliant that any other mode. Seeing how the Evo is always in "track mode", that could have something to do with it. Also, the Mustang has fancy magnetic shocks, so there's that.
There is definitely something to be said for modern tech.
I've had some purists give me a hard time for "bought not built". But I look at it like this:
I've already built a hand full of cars. I deserve a break. The Mustang has everything I'd do to it anyway: Brembos, Recaros, lightweight/big wheels that I could never get on my own, big rubber, decent aero, 500+hp, decent exhaust, and I don't have to mod the engine. All I've done is pay for the mods up front and had the Ford technicians do the install for me. With a warranty. It all ends up the same, anyway. The fact that it may be faster than something someone else built isn't my fault. With the Evo, I kept hearing a guy complain about always being beat by a "500hp Evo that drives itself", so peeps are always gonna whine when you are faster.
TLDR: I'm gonna enjoy the crap out of this car for the next 12mos.
As for low/wide: You should see it next to the Evo. The mustang is as wide as a Viper but lower than the Evo. Having them parked next to each other was a really interesting thing to see.
There is definitely something to be said for modern tech.
I've had some purists give me a hard time for "bought not built". But I look at it like this:
I've already built a hand full of cars. I deserve a break. The Mustang has everything I'd do to it anyway: Brembos, Recaros, lightweight/big wheels that I could never get on my own, big rubber, decent aero, 500+hp, decent exhaust, and I don't have to mod the engine. All I've done is pay for the mods up front and had the Ford technicians do the install for me. With a warranty. It all ends up the same, anyway. The fact that it may be faster than something someone else built isn't my fault. With the Evo, I kept hearing a guy complain about always being beat by a "500hp Evo that drives itself", so peeps are always gonna whine when you are faster.
TLDR: I'm gonna enjoy the crap out of this car for the next 12mos.
As for low/wide: You should see it next to the Evo. The mustang is as wide as a Viper but lower than the Evo. Having them parked next to each other was a really interesting thing to see.
The amount of times I have had track buddies “graduate” to Porsches, saying they won’t mod anything, then mod things after a couple track events…
Jan 25, 2022, 05:26 PM
#965
The car has everything I'd want to put on it. When I had my Type-R, all I did was wheels/tires/brake pads. It also had everything I wanted already done. It was really, really nice to just drive it. I bought the Mustang because I wouldn't have to modify anything. It's going to be nice taking about 10 steps back and doing the "track day car" thing again. I've only kept the Evo an extra two years because I haven't had to mod it any more. To go faster I would, so it's going bye bye. I'm 100% moving away from the "race car" thing.
Jan 25, 2022, 07:47 PM
#966
You underestimate my I'm-tired-of-putting-money-into-cars-ness. The car has everything I'd want to put on it. When I had my Type-R, all I did was wheels/tires/brake pads. It also had everything I wanted already done. It was really, really nice to just drive it. I bought the Mustang because I wouldn't have to modify anything. It's going to be nice taking about 10 steps back and doing the "track day car" thing again. I've only kept the Evo an extra two years because I haven't had to mod it any more. To go faster I would, so it's going bye bye.
I'm 100% moving away from the "race car" thing.
The car has everything I'd want to put on it. When I had my Type-R, all I did was wheels/tires/brake pads. It also had everything I wanted already done. It was really, really nice to just drive it. I bought the Mustang because I wouldn't have to modify anything. It's going to be nice taking about 10 steps back and doing the "track day car" thing again. I've only kept the Evo an extra two years because I haven't had to mod it any more. To go faster I would, so it's going bye bye.I'm 100% moving away from the "race car" thing.
I’m in the same mode as you but I’m still doing suspension, grip and brake mods. The supra is literally the first car I haven’t ecu tuned the first week I owned it. My Evo 10 and Ralliart I ecu tuned within the first hour of owning them. Hah.
I just want to enjoy the Supra without having to worry about crap all the time.
Jan 25, 2022, 08:02 PM
#967
wheels/tires/brake pads are mods
I’m in the same mode as you but I’m still doing suspension, grip and brake mods. The supra is literally the first car I haven’t ecu tuned the first week I owned it. My Evo 10 and Ralliart I ecu tuned within the first hour of owning them. Hah.
I just want to enjoy the Supra without having to worry about crap all the time.
I’m in the same mode as you but I’m still doing suspension, grip and brake mods. The supra is literally the first car I haven’t ecu tuned the first week I owned it. My Evo 10 and Ralliart I ecu tuned within the first hour of owning them. Hah.
I just want to enjoy the Supra without having to worry about crap all the time.
But seriously, not worrying has spoiled me. I haven't touched the Evo in... Forever. I've grown accustomed to just driving. But now I want to go faster AND not worry.
So I guess here we are LOL
Jan 25, 2022, 08:20 PM
#968
Thinking like that is why all the guys parked at McDonald's calls their car a "build"
But seriously, not worrying has spoiled me. I haven't touched the Evo in... Forever. I've grown accustomed to just driving. But now I want to go faster AND not worry.
So I guess here we are LOL
But seriously, not worrying has spoiled me. I haven't touched the Evo in... Forever. I've grown accustomed to just driving. But now I want to go faster AND not worry.
So I guess here we are LOL
Jan 25, 2022, 10:48 PM
#969
I am taking the Supra out on a 2 day event (autocross) this weekend. You know what I expect to do to it? Nothing, other than drive it. Although my evo is like that too so i cant complain. Haha. Never had to work on it at an event. Good maintenance goes a long ways.
Jan 26, 2022, 03:15 AM
#970
I got my GT350 for the same reason as kaj -- I just want to be able to do track days and focus on my driving, not the car. I also have no plans to modify to increase performance. Safety, brakes and mods to increase tire wear are not mods 
I enjoy modding cars for fun as well and am not getting rid of the Evo any time soon, but I *HATE* working on the car against a track day or autocross deadline. Having the Mustang gives me the ability to take my time with Evo mods and not feel rushed. I similarly have no desire to mod my S2000. It just gets driven and enjoyed like a normal car.
The Evo was never a nice car to drive stock. The fact that it's an RS doesn't help I suppose. I bought it new with an eye to modifying it from day one. By contrast, the S2000 and GT350 are actually nice street cars in stock form.
Taking a comfy late model street car and ruining it for street use is so stupid to me, yet so common. And then you have the cars that are ruined and only used for cars and coffee. Kills me...
I enjoy modding cars for fun as well and am not getting rid of the Evo any time soon, but I *HATE* working on the car against a track day or autocross deadline. Having the Mustang gives me the ability to take my time with Evo mods and not feel rushed. I similarly have no desire to mod my S2000. It just gets driven and enjoyed like a normal car. The Evo was never a nice car to drive stock. The fact that it's an RS doesn't help I suppose. I bought it new with an eye to modifying it from day one. By contrast, the S2000 and GT350 are actually nice street cars in stock form.
Taking a comfy late model street car and ruining it for street use is so stupid to me, yet so common. And then you have the cars that are ruined and only used for cars and coffee. Kills me...
Jan 26, 2022, 06:15 AM
#971
You guys are cute stating that changing OEM parts to aftermarket isn't modding as long as it's "just a couple things".
It's okay, we are all in the same addiction.
I really wish I enjoyed autocross more. It would have saved me so much money and pain over the years compared to open tracking. I did a couple autocross events about 15+ years ago and quickly realized it wasn't for me.
It's okay, we are all in the same addiction.
I really wish I enjoyed autocross more. It would have saved me so much money and pain over the years compared to open tracking. I did a couple autocross events about 15+ years ago and quickly realized it wasn't for me.
Jan 26, 2022, 08:37 AM
#972
You guys are cute stating that changing OEM parts to aftermarket isn't modding as long as it's "just a couple things".
It's okay, we are all in the same addiction.
I really wish I enjoyed autocross more. It would have saved me so much money and pain over the years compared to open tracking. I did a couple autocross events about 15+ years ago and quickly realized it wasn't for me.
It's okay, we are all in the same addiction.
I really wish I enjoyed autocross more. It would have saved me so much money and pain over the years compared to open tracking. I did a couple autocross events about 15+ years ago and quickly realized it wasn't for me.
Jan 26, 2022, 08:55 AM
#974
Certainly comes down to what level you're tying to play in. I could open track cheaper than competitive autocross because that last 10% gets REEAAALLY expensive. 8-10k annual budget for mods/maintenance now.
But I also don't have depreciation and most of that is a tax deduction for me.
A new Supra playing on track I would suspect you can get a handful of days on a set of tires and brakes? Depending on the tire of course.
But I also don't have depreciation and most of that is a tax deduction for me.
A new Supra playing on track I would suspect you can get a handful of days on a set of tires and brakes? Depending on the tire of course.