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Old Feb 21, 2022, 03:08 PM
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So here is the spring hitting the axle boot. So much fun.


Old Feb 21, 2022, 09:59 PM
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I didn't get any pictures for you today of the feal setup. Hopefully tomorrow.

It's pretty obvious they did not actually mount those in a car. Sad to see with how much you spent. Can't imagine you are the first victim though.... Makes me wonder
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Originally Posted by Lumpy Sticks
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I didn't get any pictures for you today of the feal setup. Hopefully tomorrow.

It's pretty obvious they did not actually mount those in a car. Sad to see with how much you spent. Can't imagine you are the first victim though.... Makes me wonder
Been chatting with MCS and they are telling me that they should be mounted the other way, spring at the top, like you and I where discussing above. Also they are surprised that no helper springs or even longer springs were supplied. Dammit Vorshlag!

Still no word from Vorshlag. They also owe me some endlinks I payed for but weren't in the box.
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weird kit. almost like legos with no instruction pamphlet
Old Feb 23, 2022, 10:46 AM
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Update on the Supra with the blazing fast 1:53 lap time at Thunderhill...

Here it is, now tuned, upgraded turbo and 600hp doing a 2:56 on the 5 mile version of Thunderhill which is insanity fast. His cornering speeds are very impressive. This is with the trans slipping a bit, which is normal for this power on the stock trans.


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Supra above with 600hp. His speed in the front straight was 146 mph

My Evo with 600hp in the same front straight was 134 mph

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Old Feb 23, 2022, 11:15 AM
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Thats definitely impressive terminal speed. I'm sure the 8 speed and super fast shifts are a major contributor vs the old 5 speed synchro box in the evo.
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Supra above with 600hp. His speed in the front straight was 146 mph

My Evo with 600hp in the same front straight was 134 mph
thats interesting... according to google maps the straight here is about 680 feet shorter than the Ridge and hitting about the same speed. found an auto C7 Z06 at Thunderhill hitting 140 on that same straight but short shifting a couple gears a little.

seams to me like the best bang for the buck as far as hp to mph ratio is just tune and couple bolt ons, seams to me like its a bit of diminishing returns from ~450 hp level to 600. of course this is kinda comparing apples to oranges being at different tracks and all and comparing to different cars.

slightly off topic, I found AMS's catted downpipe vid, it looks like its only a 10hp/tq improvement at peak gain when comparing bone stock w/ tune to downpipe with tune. for how much these downpipes cost kinda seams like a waste of money... anyone know how well the stock cats hold up to track use? I've melted an oem cat on a 350Z once tracking it and that was NA and only 3 cylinders, but like 15 year older cat tech... not sure if oem cat tech improved durability wise in the last 15 years...
Old Feb 24, 2022, 09:18 AM
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And today starts the day where, once again, locked Supras cant be tuned.... yay for me.
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Old Feb 24, 2022, 09:24 AM
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It's official, Vorshlag has totally ghosted me. Never, ever, ever going to purchase or promote anything Vorshlag ever again.

So... I went straight to the source, MCS, and got almost an instant email reply and they have been ultra helpful ever since.

Ended up buying new spring rates, lengths, helper springs and reconfigured the rear coilovers to mount non-inverse and everything looks pretty good. The spring is pretty close to the frame and sway bar but I'm crossing my fingers it's fine. At least now it clears the axle and upper arm. MCS stated they have multiple people running them this way with no issues so we'll see.





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Man. That sucks Vorshlag did you like that. We have a dealer account with them and they're always super helpful.

Glad you got the setup figured out direct through MCS.
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
Man. That sucks Vorshlag did you like that.
It does. I didn't even get my full order from them and nothing but radio silence with both emails and phone msgs, so I will be talking to my credit card company.

At first, I gave them the benefit of the doubt that maybe they have shop issues, someone is sick, etc but I see them post on facebook every day...
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Glad to hear MCS is at least on top of things.

Clearance looks very close. I'm curious to see if there's any contact over time, especially as various bushings start to age and get more compliant.
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Originally Posted by Lumpy Sticks
And today starts the day where, once again, locked Supras cant be tuned.... yay for me.
Is the Supra usable in OEM form (working dash, accessories, etc.) with any of the aftermarket ECU options?
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Originally Posted by Construct
Is the Supra usable in OEM form (working dash, accessories, etc.) with any of the aftermarket ECU options?
Maybe Motec from what I have seen but it would be a crazy amount of work to be able to set up a functioning operating system. I dont want to go down that route though. It's not needed. The factory ecu can do everything you can imagine, probably just as good as a motec system without the headaches. I'll wait for someone stateside to crack the ecu.


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