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Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
Ok, I finally remembered some info that may help you in your quest for better shocks:
PM FarNorthRacingon this forum, he has a lot of info on the MR Bilstein shocks and I believe modifies them to Bilstein Nextel Cup Shocks, mind you this is not cheap...
Read through this thread and you'll know what I mean:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...9&page=2&pp=15
I belive he was working with this company
http://www.accuratetechnologies.com/
Afterall we are in a quest to make the EVO dominate in all classes!!!
Haha and thanks for the pics!!! I guess that shut me up![Frown](https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
PM FarNorthRacingon this forum, he has a lot of info on the MR Bilstein shocks and I believe modifies them to Bilstein Nextel Cup Shocks, mind you this is not cheap...
Read through this thread and you'll know what I mean:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...9&page=2&pp=15
I belive he was working with this company
http://www.accuratetechnologies.com/
Afterall we are in a quest to make the EVO dominate in all classes!!!
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Haha and thanks for the pics!!! I guess that shut me up
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Originally Posted by Solo Evo
Looking for reccomendations here:
Since stock springs would have to be maintained, which strut assembly (<2500$) would be best? Not worried about comfort in the least.
Devin
Since stock springs would have to be maintained, which strut assembly (<2500$) would be best? Not worried about comfort in the least.
Devin
Possibly try Koni and see what they have for ideas.
Jump on the sccaforums and start a thread. A lot of info there.
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Originally Posted by Silencer
Dennis Grant is his name and is well versed in suspension geometry. He ran an Eagle Talon for years including a few championships. I believe it is up for sale this year. ATI specializes in suspension modeling, prep, shock dynoing, etc., and even dabs in custom parts. Dennis is one of several people at ATI who run autocross seriously. Bob Kasprzyk and Rick Myers run a well prep'd Z06 in SM2.
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The MR lifts the rear tire, too. Even with a 26mm front swaybar. I'll be looking into shocks, too, for AS. STU sounds appealing, but I don't want to spend all that money and get beat by a "stock" car on R's. I'll be watching what AD has to offer.
At nationals, I only had a catback and K&N. The sway bar arrived about 2 weeks late. Tires were 245-45-17 V710's.
18th in the rain, on V710's at nationals
19th over all. (got my a$$ handed to me in the dry)
At nationals, I only had a catback and K&N. The sway bar arrived about 2 weeks late. Tires were 245-45-17 V710's.
18th in the rain, on V710's at nationals
19th over all. (got my a$$ handed to me in the dry)
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Originally Posted by Slowride
Unfortunately, he hasn't posted here recently, and http://www.accuratetechnologies.com/ doesn't seem to have anything to do with suspensions. Upgrading the Bilsteins does sound appealing.
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Originally Posted by MREvo_KC
The MR lifts the rear tire, too. Even with a 26mm front swaybar. I'll be looking into shocks, too, for AS. STU sounds appealing, but I don't want to spend all that money and get beat by a "stock" car on R's. I'll be watching what AD has to offer.
At nationals, I only had a catback and K&N. The sway bar arrived about 2 weeks late. Tires were 245-45-17 V710's.
18th in the rain, on V710's at nationals
19th over all. (got my a$$ handed to me in the dry)
At nationals, I only had a catback and K&N. The sway bar arrived about 2 weeks late. Tires were 245-45-17 V710's.
18th in the rain, on V710's at nationals
19th over all. (got my a$$ handed to me in the dry)
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Originally Posted by Silencer
Ahhh, you were the lone Evo. At least you beat the lone STI
. What "all that money" are your talking about? You could buy a set of coilovers for the same price as a set of competitive A-stock prepared shocks. Add the coil-overs, full exhaust, and some type of piggyback a/f and timing hardware and you have a car that could compete in STU. If you look at the top 10 cars that competed at Nationals, you will see they were within 1 second of each other over a 2 day event. That is some close racing. I ran with a well prepared suspesion, but only with a stock motor (exhaust only). I finished 9th overall, .895 out of first (5th fastest on day 2). I was 60-70 whp down in power. The fastest driver on day 1 actually finished behind me in 10th overall. Next year my car will be 150lbs lighter with 280-300 whp. I'll be ready then!
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Originally Posted by ratt_finkel
Dave, not to make you feel any better. But my good friend Paul who took 9th (iirc), is on nothing more than springs. The class as a whole is going to get a LOT faster next year.
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FWIW, the North course (day one) was more of a hp course with long sweepers after the initial slolom. It was the first time I ran on new shaved Falkens (non-heat cycled). All year I played with tire pressures on Kumho MX's not thinking the Falkens would be too much different. Big mistake! I developed a severe push right off the trailer and did not realize it was all tire pressures until day 2. After talking with Rick (the other STU Evo), I dropped them 10-12 lbs and wella, no more understeer. Had I known this prior to Nat's, I certainly would have placed much higher on day 1 resulting in a better overall finish (dare I say top 5). Kicking my a_s ever since. Next year will be a different story, stronger car, better driver.
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Dave,
Yup Paul Maygar, I'm not sure why I thought he was in 9th. Anyway, I think the evo can and will win STU. I have no doubts about it. That is why I'll be giving it a try next year.
And also agree that it would take just about a miracle or mark daddio to win AS, let alone trophy in the class.
Yup Paul Maygar, I'm not sure why I thought he was in 9th. Anyway, I think the evo can and will win STU. I have no doubts about it. That is why I'll be giving it a try next year.
And also agree that it would take just about a miracle or mark daddio to win AS, let alone trophy in the class.
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Brandon begged me not to go STU, so...
I've been in FSP/DSP since '95. I'm going to enjoy stock for now. Will I win? No, but I will enjoy driving my car. My goal is to be the top AWD car. Successful in 2005, who's up for a fun filled battle in 2006?
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I've been in FSP/DSP since '95. I'm going to enjoy stock for now. Will I win? No, but I will enjoy driving my car. My goal is to be the top AWD car. Successful in 2005, who's up for a fun filled battle in 2006?
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Originally Posted by Silencer
As soon as it becomes a National class and attract a few top drivers, it will get even faster. But the point of it is, is that with a handful of mods, the Evo is a prime canidate to place well within the trophy spots vs spending an equal amount competing in A-stock and getting your butt handed to you.
Not saying it isn't a good class, (looking at maybe finding a car to run there myself unless I can just take the AMS Evo to FP) But expense will come, and other than tire life, it will be more expensive than stock.
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