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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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those guys take a right turn and they die!!
nascar sucks donkey dick!!!
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Evo IX
hmm by that logic all sport's suck. Guy hits ball and runs in circle while other team tries to catch ball. Guys line up and hit each other and throw or run ball trying to get to other side of field. 2 people hit ball back and forth across net. Bunch of dumbasses hit little ball around acres of grass trying to get into 18 little holes.

stupidest thing i ever heard for a comeback.....all those other sports you named besides tennis, wich sucks with nascar, have about 10000 different variables that happen during a game........

nascar/tennis are the two worst things to watch on TV for sports
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SqEvoVIII
I'd put every dollar I own that not one person on this board could drive a nextel cup car at 190mph three wide with less then 6 inces on all sides of another car. The damn things are hardly on the ground. People aways hate on the people who get rich doing something they think is so simple but couldn't do themselves. If anyone has ever been to a race, it's not for broke hoosiers, tickets are hundreds of dollars and everything else is 10x more expensive then your local sporting event. And they still seat hundreds of thousands on benches withont seat backs. It's genious. If it were so easy to make 4 lefts everybody would be doing it.
Not everyone can read either. But I bet many could gain competency doing it, especially growing up in a nascar or busch league family. Just because you wouldnt be a pro your first time doesnt mean you cant do it. Of course that goes for most things that dont involve freakish athletisism and eliminates many variables (only needing to have the reaction time and skill to place a car going 190 with a MOE of 6 inches with great consistancy)

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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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many people are making this NASCAR shiet sound very intricate and interesting....How about we put 45 F1 cars on a NASCAR track in their F1 cars and let's see how many F1 fans will still wach them race....(or should I say let's put 45 F1 drivers in a NASCAR and see how many F1 fans will still wacth)......I know I wouldn't.......and the gap will still be about 3 seconds down to 30th place and they will be going 300mph around until the G-forces suck their brains out of their helmet and everyone crashes......what a cool concept.......it's kinda like driving drunk in a bumper car....
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Evo IX
NASCAR drivers have pesonality and its been exploited. I think your statement concerning variables really over simplifies the dynamics of stock car racing. Winning races in NASCAR is more about driver skill where other motorsports are more about the car manufacturer.
Nascar is highly driver skill, your right but in context that skill is shrunk to the aquired ability to repetatively place a fast moving car. Other motorsports being manufacturer dependent is true to an extent and is part of the equation but the scope of the skillset is vastly widened as it pertains to the essence of competently driving a car as the extention of oneself. If you dont think other drivers have personality you need to check out the traveling carnival and true diehards (doing so without mega support and money) on the speed circuit. More personality per cc than anywere.
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Chaser27
stupidest thing i ever heard for a comeback.....all those other sports you named besides tennis, wich sucks with nascar, have about 10000 different variables that happen during a game........

nascar/tennis are the two worst things to watch on TV for sports

Stupid? Of course there couldnt possibly be 10,000 variables on a 1.5mile track with 45 cars going 200mph.
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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NASCAR is where the money is? Dude...Schumacher by himself makes more money than the entire NASCAR grid......

http://www.forbes.com/athletes2004/L...atatype=Person

I understand your passion about NASCAR but your overdoing it....and Gordon was not within .2 secs of Montoya's time.....it would take him years(maybe not years) to be that quick...

http://www.motorsport.com/magazine/f...l&D=2003-06-13



Originally Posted by hotrod2448
Maybe they don't try other series because with the exception of F1, Nascar is where the money is. I can't imagine too many people saying " I hope to some day barely scrape by, making a living in the drift scene. Just so guys on the internet will think I'm a real driver." No, I personally will take the several large houses, a couple of Ferrari's, a model for a girlfriend, and my own jet. Tell me I'm ghey for choosing that.


I was at the trading paint thing with Jeff Gordon when he drove Montoya's Williams and in 10 laps Jeff was within .2 of Montoya's times. The Williams guys said no one has ever gotten that close that quickly, No one. That's closer than the Minardi's get and closer than the Toyotas usually get. So, I guess Ralf Schumacher isn't a good driver either by that rational.

Yeah, the race of Champions was rigged. That's why the American drivers got virtually no instruction on the operation of the car or practice time. By, the way your probably fighting a loosing battle here. Since I've worked in Cart and currently do happen to work in the "ghey" sport called Nascar. I've seen just about all forms of major motorsport enough to know they are all equally lame anymore and mostly just a business.
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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as ryan newman said, his car is still probably illegal. go #20
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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I understand your passion about NASCAR but your overdoing it....and Gordon was not within .2 secs of Montoya's time.....it would take him years(maybe not years) to be that quick...

http://www.motorsport.com/magazine/f...l&D=2003-06-13[/QUOTE]



I'd like to see Montoya @ Talledega on any given Sunday.. He'd probably be a black stripe around turn 3 with a DNF.

Just Kidding, interesting article. Jeff Gordon did fine jumping into a F1 car, I dont know why people think these guys dont have racing skills.
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 08:52 PM
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Having watched nascar since they actually raced cars that looked like production cars, I sat down today with my boys (9 and 11) to watch the 'big race'. I haven't been a fan for a long time, but the 500 is a special race I try to catch a little of every year. Today we were treated to crashes every 10-15 laps, pit stops for all the cars at EVERY caution (some strategy, wtf?), adolescent chest pounding using 190 mph fists ("he started it and I finished it"), and the inexplicable rules - you can't use all of the racetrack, if you crash and the pits are closed (?!) you're SOL. To top it all off, I'm confident by next weekend nascar will have changed the rules to negate the perceived advantage of whatever make won today. Let them race, and maybe the best (not the luckiest) driver will win.

Anyone that races a car for a living has my respect. The circus that nascar has become is nauseating though, especially since it's all about money and the 'show' now and not the cars, drivers, or fans. Unfortunately most all forms of racing are the same way, but at least we don't get it crammed down our throats everywhere we turn. I encourage my kids to watch all different forms of racing, and hands down they prefer any series that turns both ways. Despite having a speedway less than 45 minutes away, I have never been there. I will however drive the 2-1/2 hours to Indy or Mid-Ohio as many times as I possibly can.

Some people enjoy nascar, my family and I don't. Arguing about what form of motorsports is best is stupid. Everyone knows it's MotoGP.

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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 992gnt
MotoGP.
Go Rossi!!!

ha ha.. I love motoGP.



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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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The reason why nascar is so popular is 1. Dale Jr. and 2. B/c you can see the whole track from the grandstands.
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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boring as hell to watch but fun as hell to do!
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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As far as NASCAR goes, if people drive 200mph right next to each other, I say "they alright!" I don't follow it by any means, and I personally consider Rally-type driving the ultimate test of all-around ability. I gotta say that the *****, endurance and (yes) strategy involved are pretty impressive. Ironically, a lot of people who dis NASCAR for driving in circles have no problem praising straight line Drag Racing...
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nils_work
Go Rossi!!!

ha ha.. I love motoGP.



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I am a Nicky Hayden fan myself. Gotta pull for the home team, not to mention Rossi pretty much never loses.


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