Track whores with MRs?
Aug 12, 2006, 04:55 PM
#166
Not to mention I have a couple buddies here in NorCal that go to the track just as much as me and are just as quick and hard on the car as me. I'm the only one with his gearbox at TRE right now.
They all have 5spds. I have a broken 6spd. Some of them even have more track miles then my car does.
They all have 5spds. I have a broken 6spd. Some of them even have more track miles then my car does.
Aug 12, 2006, 05:32 PM
#167
Originally Posted by razorlab
Not to mention I have a couple buddies here in NorCal that go to the track just as much as me and are just as quick and hard on the car as me. I'm the only one with his gearbox at TRE right now.
They all have 5spds. I have a broken 6spd. Some of them even have more track miles then my car does.
They all have 5spds. I have a broken 6spd. Some of them even have more track miles then my car does.
IMO, Get a five speed in your Evo and do it once, but do it right no matter how much it costs. In the long run it will save you money. Try to use the 6 speed as part of the payment to Jon on a 5 speed. There might be some who insist on having a rebuilt 6 speed.
Aug 12, 2006, 05:43 PM
#169
Originally Posted by razorlab
Doh, did the tranny seize up causing you to crash?
That was at Cal Speedway.
Aug 12, 2006, 07:19 PM
#170
Evolving Member
Hmm, perhaps some exhaust wrapping around the downpipe could help a bit since I know it's so freaking close to the tranny. I know it's a small effort, but it could be enough to maybe keep some heat off of the gears?
Aug 12, 2006, 07:38 PM
#171
for what it's worth, I replaced my plain downpipe with a ceramic barrier coated one from WORKS after I broke my 6sp from overheating, and I have had no problems with the tranny since then (put about 5 auto-x and 3 track days on it). Could be coincidence though ...
Aug 12, 2006, 07:45 PM
#172
Some of us may not be able to afford $4-$6k for a new 5sp transmission. Everyone keeps glazing over the fact that these failures seem do be a direct byproduct of excessive heat. Simply replacing it with the 5sp (though this does work) is the easiest but is still the most expensive solution. It's not the ONLY solution, because we haven't explored everything yet. If an oil cooler or better lubricant keep the temperatures down, the problem (of heat) is solved.
nj1266, your Sentra tranny wasn't ever built for performance, it's from an economy car. I'm not surprised it failed multiple times. The Evo 6sp failures aren't from a lack of strength, they are plenty strong. All we need to do is keep the temps down. That's NOT a band-aid, it's a real solution because excessive heat will kill any transmission. Please stop hounding the 5sp as the only fix, you're not helping the community to make any progress on this matter. Even if Jon from TRE says it's your best bet, it's still not the only bet because other solutions haven't been explored yet. Yes we know it works, but it's terribly expensive and for that reason, other options will develop.
nj1266, your Sentra tranny wasn't ever built for performance, it's from an economy car. I'm not surprised it failed multiple times. The Evo 6sp failures aren't from a lack of strength, they are plenty strong. All we need to do is keep the temps down. That's NOT a band-aid, it's a real solution because excessive heat will kill any transmission. Please stop hounding the 5sp as the only fix, you're not helping the community to make any progress on this matter. Even if Jon from TRE says it's your best bet, it's still not the only bet because other solutions haven't been explored yet. Yes we know it works, but it's terribly expensive and for that reason, other options will develop.
Aug 12, 2006, 07:53 PM
#174
Originally Posted by voidhawk
for what it's worth, I replaced my plain downpipe with a ceramic barrier coated one from WORKS after I broke my 6sp from overheating, and I have had no problems with the tranny since then (put about 5 auto-x and 3 track days on it). Could be coincidence though ...
Aug 12, 2006, 08:04 PM
#175
Originally Posted by razorlab
I will be running a Oil cooler no matter what transmission I decide on. I already have the pump and cooler.
Now I am a wee bit worried about my transfercase too.
A new 5spd is $2750 from TRE with his goodies, a 6spd is $4250
Now I am a wee bit worried about my transfercase too.
A new 5spd is $2750 from TRE with his goodies, a 6spd is $4250
and you're right, the new 5sp is under $3k. Still I don't want to spend that if I can run a cooler and keep my 6sp in check. I think I'll be looking into getting my DP coated, that sounds like a great idea.
Aug 12, 2006, 08:09 PM
#176
Yes. This opened my eyes big time to heat and cooling the car. I will be coating my DP, adding a gearbox cooler, upgrading my oil cooler, etc.
I bought:
Tilton pump TIL-40-524 : 4x11x2 - $180
Fluidyne trans cooler FLD-DB-30110 - $95
Haven't got the -AN hoses and connectors yet. That will cost a bit as well. Probably be under $500 for everything. We'll see.
Plus I bought another greddy temp gauge for the transmission.
I bought:
Tilton pump TIL-40-524 : 4x11x2 - $180
Fluidyne trans cooler FLD-DB-30110 - $95
Haven't got the -AN hoses and connectors yet. That will cost a bit as well. Probably be under $500 for everything. We'll see.
Plus I bought another greddy temp gauge for the transmission.
Aug 15, 2006, 06:21 PM
#178
over $3k? doh!
Please post some pictures or ask Jon to post some good pics showing where the hoses are mounted and the temp gauge and eveything is being placed. I will likely follow suit pending your setup works effectively. It may be possible (if this really works to control temps) for a vendor to sell as a complete package minus labor and installation to be performed by an audacious garage mechanic or a shop like TRE.
Where are you planning to install the temp gauge sensor?
Please post some pictures or ask Jon to post some good pics showing where the hoses are mounted and the temp gauge and eveything is being placed. I will likely follow suit pending your setup works effectively. It may be possible (if this really works to control temps) for a vendor to sell as a complete package minus labor and installation to be performed by an audacious garage mechanic or a shop like TRE.
Where are you planning to install the temp gauge sensor?
