AMS heads west to Super Street Time Attack
#33
Just came back from the track, here's the results from what I remember.
AMS - 1:55xx
GMG GT3 cup - 1:49.019
XS Engineering R32 - 1:49xx
Zero Sport STi - 1:51xx
Vesko Evo VIII - 1:53xx
AJ Racing S2000 - 1:56xx
Evasive IX - 2:00xx
GMG GT2 - 1:53xx
Mines R34 GTR - 1:52xx
AMS - 1:55xx
GMG GT3 cup - 1:49.019
XS Engineering R32 - 1:49xx
Zero Sport STi - 1:51xx
Vesko Evo VIII - 1:53xx
AJ Racing S2000 - 1:56xx
Evasive IX - 2:00xx
GMG GT2 - 1:53xx
Mines R34 GTR - 1:52xx
#34
Originally Posted by S1monLM
Just came back from the track, here's the results from what I remember.
AMS - 1:55xx
GMG GT3 cup - 1:49.019
XS Engineering R32 - 1:49xx
Zero Sport STi - 1:51xx
Vesko Evo VIII - 1:53xx
AJ Racing S2000 - 1:56xx
Evasive IX - 2:00xx
GMG GT2 - 1:53xx
Mines R34 GTR - 1:52xx
AMS - 1:55xx
GMG GT3 cup - 1:49.019
XS Engineering R32 - 1:49xx
Zero Sport STi - 1:51xx
Vesko Evo VIII - 1:53xx
AJ Racing S2000 - 1:56xx
Evasive IX - 2:00xx
GMG GT2 - 1:53xx
Mines R34 GTR - 1:52xx
#36
being from the west coast, i don't get to see guys like ams or buschur very often, so it was pretty cool seeing ams today. but if there was 1 thing i could tell you guys about ams today, is there car definitely kicked ***. maybe the time doesn't show so much but damn it was fast and consistent from what i saw!!!
#37
Originally Posted by BadazzCR
If those times are true... then thats pretty bad. Maybe something went wrong? does anyone have anymore info?
Are you fimilar with the track at all? What makes you think they're slow?
#38
7th place out of 9 cars listed, I was speaking about the AMS evo. That maybe they had some issue. If not then the east coast cars that were running this year are much slower.
#41
The XS R32 Skyline is a 850whp monster..... it's pretty damn impressive to basically match the GT3 cup car!
As for the AMS, heck, it's tough to drive all away across the country and race on a track you're unfamiliar with and have NO test time.
As for the AMS, heck, it's tough to drive all away across the country and race on a track you're unfamiliar with and have NO test time.
#42
I know this track well and a 1:55 for a 650 hp car is OK. Not bad, but nothing special. The 400 hp nitrous cobalt driven by John Henricy turned a 1:51 last year. I think Vesko took 2nd overall last year in the black Evo with a 1:52. A well sorted road race Evo with a big turbo (GT35) can turn a sub 1:50 lap time. For those not familiar with BWillow it is a driver's track. Very busy, rewards a good driver and really penalizes average and bad drivers. This might just be a case of having a driver that didn't know the track.
#43
Yep.. it was rough...
I think the saying goes, some day you eat the bear, some days the bear eats you. Today, the bear ate us.
The bear's name? Oversteer.
The AMS Evo in the Tech line complete with new wing
The event kicked off with a 30 min warm-up/seeding run, which would be my first time on the track. No real issue for me, I learn tracks fast and had been watching video for two weeks. The brakes however, had some different ideas. I went out and the brakes were soft, being weird, hitting ABS funny and quick.
I stayed out, because I needed to learn the track but without being able to brake consistantly I wasn't getting good corner entries, and ran a 2:03... horrid. We ended up seeded in group "D" for the slower cars (which is fine, it was also a smaller group I think)
The Wilwood guys were there and I have to say they were top notch, they looked at the pads, listened to my feedback, helped us bleed the brakes (where we had air in the inner bleed valves) and even put me on a different compound (their A vs. the B we started with) After that, the brakes were great, and the Wilwood guys still helped out with other stuff throughout the day, such as relaying messages and helping with air pressures. Big thumbs up to those guys. Pretty damn good brakes also.
The car however, has a serious case of the "I really want to go backwards" 2nd lap, first official session I could tell it was loose, but each successive faster corner it got more loose. There is a fast left hander that is after a fast right, (called "riverside") I had been through it flat in the 30 min session, and on the out lap, but the extra 3-5 mph I picked up on the 2nd lap would prove to be my downfall.
"What's boss Kane's ditch doing in your car"
At about 120 - 125mph the car decided to take a sight-seeing hike through the California desert. This is fine I guess, it was my first trip to California and I wanted to look around. Problem being, when your car is filled with said California desert, you can't see a damn thing. You do have some interesting thoughts though.
"I wonder if it's going to roll in this soft sand."
"I wonder if there is anything out here to hit? Like a fence. Or Arizona." (seriously, that thing spun for a long time)
"I should probably take my hands off the wheel in case it does hit something or start rolling"
It didn't roll, or hit anything. (other than the grass/bush tufts that are all over the place, which at 100+mph tend to do things like crack that awesome splitter, and rip the side skirt off the car. )
Knowing I needed to get some kind of time so we didn't get sent home for being over 110% of the leader's time, I went ahead and stayed out after trudging back on track. Of course, driving a car with evil handling characteristics is tough, even tougher when there is dirt on the outside of your window, on the inside of your window, a sand storm worthy of that scene from "The Mummy" inside the car, and then more dirt on the inside and outside of your helmet visor. And, oh.. in your mouth. And eyes.
I managed a 2:01.606 made the cutoff by 0.6 seconds.
We clean out the car, (putting boss Kane’s ditch back in the yard) tape up the splitter, wondered what state or province the side skirt ended up in, pulled rebound out of the rear, adjusted tire pressures, and went back out.
It was still loose, and I was trying to work through traffic. I manage a 1:58.2 Not too bad but I was still holding on for dear life. We come back in adjust some more, don’t have time to make the major adjustments I want to make (lowering the back to put some weight on it, which would also give us some camber and toe-in)
So knowing the car is going to be loose again, I go back out.. 2nd lap, cotton corners, around it comes. Boss Kane’s ditch is back in the car again. I figured, what the hell lets go for the hat trick and push some more, finally get a couple of clean laps, driving as fast as I can, getting dirt on exits, curbs on entry.
I managed a 1:55.82 - not really anything to write home about, but the photographer taking pictures in the final corner probably thought I was practicing for the drifting competition and should have some good shots. There were guys in front of me that I had outrun this year by 2-3 seconds and there was no reason we didn’t at least run in the 52s.
The XS Engineering Skyline, driven to the Unlimited AWD win by Tarzan Yamada.
It is one of those days that when we do end up beating the Cyber Evo will be part of what makes it that much better, but on its own, the day was rough. That’s racing though, a month ago at the GT Live event at VIR the Zero Sports STi was having trouble staying out of club racer Civic’s way… this week they finished 2nd.
Welcome to motorsports.
I think the saying goes, some day you eat the bear, some days the bear eats you. Today, the bear ate us.
The bear's name? Oversteer.
The AMS Evo in the Tech line complete with new wing
The event kicked off with a 30 min warm-up/seeding run, which would be my first time on the track. No real issue for me, I learn tracks fast and had been watching video for two weeks. The brakes however, had some different ideas. I went out and the brakes were soft, being weird, hitting ABS funny and quick.
I stayed out, because I needed to learn the track but without being able to brake consistantly I wasn't getting good corner entries, and ran a 2:03... horrid. We ended up seeded in group "D" for the slower cars (which is fine, it was also a smaller group I think)
The Wilwood guys were there and I have to say they were top notch, they looked at the pads, listened to my feedback, helped us bleed the brakes (where we had air in the inner bleed valves) and even put me on a different compound (their A vs. the B we started with) After that, the brakes were great, and the Wilwood guys still helped out with other stuff throughout the day, such as relaying messages and helping with air pressures. Big thumbs up to those guys. Pretty damn good brakes also.
The car however, has a serious case of the "I really want to go backwards" 2nd lap, first official session I could tell it was loose, but each successive faster corner it got more loose. There is a fast left hander that is after a fast right, (called "riverside") I had been through it flat in the 30 min session, and on the out lap, but the extra 3-5 mph I picked up on the 2nd lap would prove to be my downfall.
"What's boss Kane's ditch doing in your car"
At about 120 - 125mph the car decided to take a sight-seeing hike through the California desert. This is fine I guess, it was my first trip to California and I wanted to look around. Problem being, when your car is filled with said California desert, you can't see a damn thing. You do have some interesting thoughts though.
"I wonder if it's going to roll in this soft sand."
"I wonder if there is anything out here to hit? Like a fence. Or Arizona." (seriously, that thing spun for a long time)
"I should probably take my hands off the wheel in case it does hit something or start rolling"
It didn't roll, or hit anything. (other than the grass/bush tufts that are all over the place, which at 100+mph tend to do things like crack that awesome splitter, and rip the side skirt off the car. )
Knowing I needed to get some kind of time so we didn't get sent home for being over 110% of the leader's time, I went ahead and stayed out after trudging back on track. Of course, driving a car with evil handling characteristics is tough, even tougher when there is dirt on the outside of your window, on the inside of your window, a sand storm worthy of that scene from "The Mummy" inside the car, and then more dirt on the inside and outside of your helmet visor. And, oh.. in your mouth. And eyes.
I managed a 2:01.606 made the cutoff by 0.6 seconds.
We clean out the car, (putting boss Kane’s ditch back in the yard) tape up the splitter, wondered what state or province the side skirt ended up in, pulled rebound out of the rear, adjusted tire pressures, and went back out.
It was still loose, and I was trying to work through traffic. I manage a 1:58.2 Not too bad but I was still holding on for dear life. We come back in adjust some more, don’t have time to make the major adjustments I want to make (lowering the back to put some weight on it, which would also give us some camber and toe-in)
So knowing the car is going to be loose again, I go back out.. 2nd lap, cotton corners, around it comes. Boss Kane’s ditch is back in the car again. I figured, what the hell lets go for the hat trick and push some more, finally get a couple of clean laps, driving as fast as I can, getting dirt on exits, curbs on entry.
I managed a 1:55.82 - not really anything to write home about, but the photographer taking pictures in the final corner probably thought I was practicing for the drifting competition and should have some good shots. There were guys in front of me that I had outrun this year by 2-3 seconds and there was no reason we didn’t at least run in the 52s.
The XS Engineering Skyline, driven to the Unlimited AWD win by Tarzan Yamada.
It is one of those days that when we do end up beating the Cyber Evo will be part of what makes it that much better, but on its own, the day was rough. That’s racing though, a month ago at the GT Live event at VIR the Zero Sports STi was having trouble staying out of club racer Civic’s way… this week they finished 2nd.
Welcome to motorsports.
Last edited by racerjon1; Nov 9, 2006 at 01:11 AM.