It helps to have two people doing the rolling. One heats and the other rolls. You also need to heat so that the paint is soft but not too hot. Keep the gun moving rather than holding it in one place.

Be careful on the drivers side as the cutout for the fuel door creates a tendency to get a crease in the fender. Small movements of the lip helps prevent the crease.

Use the fender roller tool if possible. Look in the private for sale suspension thread for a guy who rents out his roller tool. Our biggest challenge was getting the right angle of the roller. Depending on where you are in the arc it requires a slightly different angle. Strive for small movements of the lip at each pass.

After all of our caution, one of the lips got paint cracking. What I did was order some touchup paint from Towerpaint.com. As the crack is out of sight, masking and hitting it with the color did the trick. Carefully take some sandpaper and knock off the flakes. Primer then color.

Patience is the key. But if you are really going to fold the lip up it is difficult to not crack the paint. It cracks in such a way that it is not really visible when you look at the fender.

 

Even going slow, if you're rolling fenders aggressively, you'll probably crack the paint at some point in the process.

My suggestion is to buy on of those Mitsubishi "Paint Pens" matching your particular color. Clean the area and apply the pen to it when you're done. It sure made me feel better about rolling the crap out of my fenders.

 

650?

That's lower than I run even for STU, 245 street tires.

I would expect 800+ with the stock front bar.

d

 

Yea. Some very successful racers are running in the 1000lb range...

 

And at least one very successful BSP driver (not me :-) ) is running 675 lb/in (12kg/mm) up front, 900 lb/in (16kg/mm) rear. Your mileage may vary.

 

Speaking of suspension and spring rates, is anyone in BSP or SM using Moton double- or triple-adjustables? Did you have to have a custom rebuild, or can Moton supply competitive setups from the factory?

I'm looking for something in the neighborhood of 650-750lb/in front and 875-1000lb/in rear. Preferably triple-adjustable, if I can afford them.

I'll be going to the Moton suspension seminar at Small Fortune Racing on Sat, Feb 23, to find out more. Apparently their chief engineer will be there. Anyone else going? Here's the info:

http://www.smallfortuneracing.com/page25/page25.html

Mike

 

I'm gonna assume this is for the rear, as it sounds in line. That sounds a little absurd for a front spring though.

 

Who? If you're not talking about the Tak/Leiber-->Berry car, then what bench mark is there?

d

 

Not all fast Evo's get to go to nationals

ps. It's not me.

 

Well said. But speaking of Tom Berry's Evo, does anyone know his spring rates? (Not asking for industrial espionage, here, just asking if anyone asked him and they told him -- I've never met him, although a friend of mine and my daughter were out at nationals last year and saw him (and Christine) demolish the competition.)

 

but how do you know where the speed comes from? I've seen good drivers go really fast in crappy cars. It doesn't mean they couldn't go faster if the car was better.

 

I think griceiv might know the Berrys.

 

Well it's won with two different drivers....sooooo.....

Seriously though, showcase has trophied in 4 different evos. They (Lieber et. al) certainly know how to go fast...and I'm not just saying this because I actually owned their 2004 coilovers at one point (not their setup, their _exact_ units).

d

 

You quoted me, but I'm not too sure where you're going with this...

Where does their speed come from? Well, the guy I'm thinking of is an excellent driver, highly analytical, motivated and thoughtful about it.

He's also run with, and beaten Daddio and a few of the top SM'ers on a regular basis. I would imagine if he had a faster Evo, he'd be...well... faster

 

Oh nevermind I mixed up posts. My original point was to point&shoot about how I though 650 lb/in was low for front springrate in BSP, not your. Sorry.

I'll quote him again now

What do you mean very successful? If you're not going to nationals, you may be fast, but I would argue you aren't "very successful".

d